Arugmentation (Was: Re: [PLUG-TALK] Fair Use, etc.)
J.A. Henshaw
jeff at jhenshaw.com
Wed Apr 3 02:23:29 UTC 2002
Jeme A Brelin wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, J.A. Henshaw wrote:
>
>>So you are saying that even if I provide a cite, you will find a way
>>to discredit it.
>>
>
> That's called "skepticism". You find a way to discredit something and if
> you can find none, THEN you believe it.
>
>
>>>As for the army regulations you cited, they don't apply to civilians.
>>>
>>I didn't say they did apply to civilians. I said the courts were an
>>extension of the Commander-in-Chiefs power.
>>
>
> No, the courts are part of the judicial branch and do not report to the
> Commander-in-Chief. Surely you understand the separation of powers.
>
>
>>They officers of the court are not civilians, are they. No.
>>
>
> Yes, they are. A judge is a private citizen holding office for the
> people. They are not military.
>
> I'm going to second-guess you here and I apologize if I'm mistaken.
>
> I imagine you're thinking one of two things:
> "Yes, they ARE military! That's what I'm trying to tell you!"
>
> In that case, your reasoning is circular. They are military because the
> army regulations say so and they are covered by army regulations because
> they are military. That doesn't hold water.
>
> "That's not how I define civilian!"
>
> I'll begin that argument with the specific caveat that "civilian" was used
> to distinguish those who are under the rule of army regulation from those
> who are not. Hence, we are only interested in military definitions of the
> word.
>
> So, to begin the first volley, here's Webster's:
>
> Main Entry: civilian
> Function: noun
> Date: 14th century
> 1 : a specialist in Roman or modern civil law
> 2 a : one not on active duty in a military, police, or fire-fighting force
> b : OUTSIDER 1
>
> Clearly 2a is the definition that applies.
>
> Your turn.
>
> J.
>
If we were not under Emergency War Powers, you would be
correct.
But, we are.
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