Arugmentation (Was: Re: [PLUG-TALK] Fair Use, etc.)

J.A. Henshaw jeff at jhenshaw.com
Wed Apr 3 02:23:29 UTC 2002


Jeme A Brelin wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, J.A. Henshaw wrote:
> 
>>So you are saying that even if I provide a cite, you will find a way
>>to discredit it.
>>
> 
> That's called "skepticism".  You find a way to discredit something and if
> you can find none, THEN you believe it.
> 
> 
>>>As for the army regulations you cited, they don't apply to civilians.
>>>
>>I didn't say they did apply to civilians.  I said the courts were an
>>extension of the Commander-in-Chiefs power.
>>
> 
> No, the courts are part of the judicial branch and do not report to the
> Commander-in-Chief.  Surely you understand the separation of powers.
> 
> 
>>They officers of the court are not civilians, are they.  No.
>>
> 
> Yes, they are.  A judge is a private citizen holding office for the
> people.  They are not military.
> 
> I'm going to second-guess you here and I apologize if I'm mistaken.
> 
> I imagine you're thinking one of two things:
> "Yes, they ARE military!  That's what I'm trying to tell you!"
> 
> In that case, your reasoning is circular.  They are military because the
> army regulations say so and they are covered by army regulations because
> they are military.  That doesn't hold water.
> 
> "That's not how I define civilian!"
> 
> I'll begin that argument with the specific caveat that "civilian" was used
> to distinguish those who are under the rule of army regulation from those
> who are not.  Hence, we are only interested in military definitions of the
> word.
> 
> So, to begin the first volley, here's Webster's:
>                    
> Main Entry: civilian 
> Function: noun
> Date: 14th century
> 1 : a specialist in Roman or modern civil law
> 2 a : one not on active duty in a military, police, or fire-fighting force
> b : OUTSIDER 1
> 
> Clearly 2a is the definition that applies.
> 
> Your turn.
> 
> J.
> 


If we were not under Emergency War Powers,  you would be 
correct.

But,  we are.



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