[PLUG-TALK] Re: [PLUG] Sounds good to me ;)

J Henshaw jeff at jhenshaw.com
Sat Jun 15 15:32:40 UTC 2002


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeme A Brelin" <jeme at brelin.net>
To: "PLUG off-topic discussion" <plug-talk at lists.pdxlinux.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [PLUG-TALK] Re: [PLUG] Sounds good to me ;)


>
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, J Henshaw wrote:
> > There are only two problems in this world: Communication and
> > Overpopulation.
>
> Personally, I think Communication is a good thing.

You knew I what I meant,  Jeme.  Or you didn't.  So either way,
communication is THE problem.


 I mean, it's true that
> most communication taking place in the world carries ideas that are false,
> vapid, or otherwise destructive, but I wouldn't say that makes
> Communication itself a problem.  I might say that a Lack of Meaningful
> Communication is a problem.  And at the moment, I'm not sure that I can
> come up with a cause for that problem, so I would accept (conditionally)
> the assertion that it is a root cause.


Typical lawyerly prose designed to make a man rich by talking by the hour;
or else you like hearing yourself talk.

I like to cut to the chase.


>
> "Overpopulation" is the belief by that some have the right to live in a
> place and others that live there (often even those BORN there) do not have
> that right.  I can't accept this notion as it requires arbitrary
> discrimination.

I will cut to the chase:  You will experience the "notion" when folks you
can't communicate with are hungry and beating down your front door.  I doubt
very highly that your pontifications will resound with them.  They will eat
you alive and spit out your bones.


Stay tuned for part 2 of the "War on Terror"


>  I can think of three concurrent problems that proponents
> of the idea of "overpopulation" might accept as the true causes


True causes are causes,  and causes are true causes by definition.
But you sound very convincing while you listen to yourself talk.


> of this
> condition: unsustainable population growth, poor settlement location, and

> unsustainable use of available resources.  Surely you agree that those are
> problems and since they are the causes of the condition you call
> overpopulation, then Overpopulation cannot be on a list of "only problems"
> that doesn't also contain those three problems.
>
> And I think you'd be hard-pressed to coherently argue (anything... sorry,
> couldn't resist) that the consolidation of power is caused by
> communication.

I see you still refuse to read anything I post a link to.

>
> > If you can change my mind, after a discourse based on objective fact
> > and reality, I am ready and willing to change my mind if that is what
> > the facts require.
>
> Economic theory is not fact, no matter who states it.

Agreed.  Conversely, Economic facts are true no matter who disputes it.

Jeff Henshaw
www.jhenshaw.com







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