[PLUG-TALK] Re: [PLUG] Sounds good to me ;)
J Henshaw
jeff at jhenshaw.com
Wed Jun 19 00:47:17 UTC 2002
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From: "Jeme A Brelin" <jeme at brelin.net>
To: "PLUG off-topic discussion" <plug-talk at lists.pdxlinux.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: [PLUG-TALK] Re: [PLUG] Sounds good to me ;)
>
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, J Henshaw wrote:
> > First, you can't steal what no one owns.
> > Care to dispute that? Go look up theft in Webster's.
> > Then we'll take the next point.
>
> I think you're stuck in your own perception of property.
I know I am freed by it
>
> You believe that property is either owned or not and if nobody claims
> ownership, there is no claim of any sort.
Well, that is sorta the general meaning of the word, okay then...
Citizen: "Officer, I would like to report a robbery"
Officer: "By whose definition"
>
> I've been trying to express to you that there are OTHER philosophies of
> property that have nothing to do with the European tradition of private
> property. The Native Americans had one of these OTHER philosophies.
I am a native american, get over it
>
> They're general philosophy was that no individual could claim ownership of
> the land because the land is forever. It is not a thing man made and
> therefore it is not a thing over which humankind can claim dominion.
Neither is my spirit man-made, and no corporation will turn me into a
zombie
Neither is the wheat we harvest man-made but it defies you definition of
"new math" ownership.
>
> Claiming dominion over the land occupied and used by the Natives of this
> continent was a violation; an invasion.
Again, all one continenet at one time, before the races were split
Claiming land for an individual
> person that is not in the dominion of humankind is theft from the commons.
>
> Consider the European invasion of North America as a massive Denial of
> Service attack.
>
> J.
Consider your mental block massive denial
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