[PLUG-TALK] Fair Use, etc.
J.A.Henshaw
jhenshaw at dsl-only.net
Fri Mar 29 00:26:25 UTC 2002
Craighead, Scot D wrote:
>>Desires beyond needs are not addressed.
>>
>
> Is that a good thing? Who gets to decide what someone needs? If you have a
> 10 foot by 10 foot room with a toilet, sink, bed and access to a public
> bathroom to live in, are your living needs met? Do you need music? Do you
> need art? Do you need dental care? Who decides in your perfect communist
> leaderless world?
>
>
>>Well, "Marx was a communist" is a sort of tautology. I mean, he invented
>>the damned thing and defined the word to reflect his own views.
>>
>>However, I think you're working from your own skewed perception of what
>>communism is and applying that definition back to history.
>>
>>You can't look to any establishment of power and find a definition of
>>communism. No communist order has ever risen to power because power is
>>contrary to communism.
>>
>>Again, read Capital. And for a description of the mechanics of
>>progressive politics and why it does not prevail against regressive
>>structures of wealth and power, I recommend H. G. Wells' The New
>>Machiavelli.
>>
>
> True communism is an ideal that can never be achieved. It expects humans to
> act against there basic nature and if they don't, it completely falls apart
> into a brutal, horrible police state. That is way most of us look at the
> former soviet union or the current Chinese government as communists. They
> have achieved all that can be achieved with that form of government.
>
>
>>In essence, the Constitution was written by rich men, for rich men. The
>>Bill of Rights was an attempt to prevent the public from getting TOTALLY
>>screwed by the rich and powerful. Any destruction of the rights
>>gauranteed by those Amendments is a blow to equity and a benefit to the
>>rich and powerful.
>>
>
> Your arguement is circular. First you say that the constitution protects
> the little guy from the rich and powerful, then you say it is written by and
> for them.
>
These are the EXACT same things I said to Jeme.
He says I am an old man with outmoded thinking ;)
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