[PLUG-TALK] Re: [PLUG-TALK] Erotik ürün ve video cd ler

[Jeme A Brelin]

On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Russ Johnson wrote:
> Personally, I see absolutely no difference between these two statement:
> 
> "I wish this list were closed."
> 
> and
> 
> "This list should be closed too."
> 
> Now, if I had actually voiced a complaint, that'd be a different
> kettle of fish. If I'd said, "Damn it, this list should have been
> closed at the same time as the main list and the admins suck." Then
> I'd agree with you.

If you don't see the difference between the above statements (and I don't,
either, in terms of intent), then what difference do you see between what
you wrote above and what you wrote to start this thread?

> However, I didn't voice a complaint. I made a statement. You can't
> tell me it's a complaint, because you have NO IDEA what my intent was.

So you're saying your intent was NOT to express distaste?

> You might perceive it as a complaint, but without my confirmation you
> are assuming that it's a complaint.

I'm not assuming anything.  You stated that you wished for things to be
different than how they were.  That's a complaint against the way things
were.

Moreover, expressing distaste in a matter that is under your control to
remedy without actually making effort to remedy the situation is simply
whining.

> It wasn't a complaint.

You stated preference for one state of affairs over another particular
state of affairs.  To me, that's a complaint against the latter state.

...and a passive-aggressive, whiney, pathetic complaint, at that.

> It was a statement of my opinion, and I have every right to my
> opinion. I also have every right to express my opinion.

Nobody said you didn't have the right to an opinion or to express
it.  Your rights are not at issue.  I think you need to contemplate the
difference between rights and responsibilities.  You have the RIGHT to
whine all you like, but you have the resonsibility to take action and not
just complain.

Do you have the RIGHT to shirk your responsibilities?  Absolutely.  But
that makes you a bad person.

> Don't jump to conclusions.

I didn't.  But thanks for the order.

J.
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