[PLUG-TALK] Michael, On the subject of God.
Michael C. Robinson
michael at robinson-west.com
Tue Nov 18 17:07:55 UTC 2003
On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 20:15, Russ Johnson wrote:
> On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:22 pm, Michael C. Robinson wrote:
> > Even though Christ is true God and true man you say this?
>
> Yes.
>
> > I'm not
> > aware of any subjugation.
>
> You follow the rules put forth by men in a book. That's subjugation.
>
> --8<-- cut from www.m-w.com
>
> One entry found for subjugate.
>
> Main Entry: sub-ju-gate
> Pronunciation: 'sub-ji-"gAt
> Function: transitive verb
> Inflected Form(s): -gat·ed; -gat·ing
> Etymology: Middle English, from Latin subjugatus, past participle of
> subjugare, from sub- + jugum yoke -- more at YOKE
> Date: 15th century
> 1 : to bring under control and governance as a subject : CONQUER
> 2 : to make submissive : SUBDUE
> - sub·ju·ga·tion /"s&b-ji-'gA-sh&n/ noun
> - sub·ju·ga·tor /'s&b-ji-"gA-t&r/ noun
>
> --8<-- end of entry
>
> Specifically, number one, above.
>
> > Celibacy has great value in avoiding
> > disease and certain entanglements.
>
> So does being a hermit. I wouldn't recommend it for propagating the
> species. So your religion takes the best, brightest and most religious, and
> condemns them to end their family line with celibacy. Makes a lot of sense to me.
>
> > Catholic relief services feed
> > and clothe many people allowing them to survive. In fact, Christ
> > says we are to serve each other.
>
> No one has said that certain aspects of religion have benefited others.
>
> All I'm saying is that ANY organized religion is a creation of man. One
> of the purposes of any religion is to subjugate (i.e. control) the followers of
> that religion.
>
> Are they going to tell you this??? No, not in so many words. But that's
> how it works.
>
> > Not subjugate.
>
> See above.
>
> > Even outside
> > christianity you find religions centered around service. Your
> > just angry, your not making any valid point.
>
> I'm not angry. You want to follow after that, be my guest. My point
> makes perfect sense. You are the one trying to say the truth lies in a book
> without any verifiable proof.
>
> > What creation of man can last 2000 years?
>
> A pyramid. The parthenon. The bible. Shintoism which is older than
> Christianity by at least 500 years. Buddhism, which is also older than
> Christianity. The Great Wall of China.
>
> There are lots of things that can and have lasted much longer than 2000
> years.
>
> > It is absurd for something
> > man made to last that long.
>
> I think I've shown otherwise. Some of the pyramids are over 4000 years
> old.
>
> --
> Russ Johnson
> Dimension 7/Stargate Online
> http://www.dimstar.net
>
> Top post? http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html
>
If you really want to argue this Russ, maybe you should take on
someone you can lose to. Take on a Karl Keating or Scott Hahn for
a change. Try tuning into 88.3 KBVM FM, if you have the nerve.
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Michael C. Robinson
Associates of General Studies
PCC March 2003.
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