[PLUG-TALK] Re: Close to Godwin-liness

GLL guy1656 at ados.com
Sat Nov 13 02:41:56 UTC 2004


: Why is it Socialism when government spends money to help people and not
: Socialism when we kill them, yet the money comes from the same source?
:
: Or maybe it is just National Socialism that the Conservatives like...

Coming perilously close to 'Godwin' here, but the 'National Socialism' you 
mention would be abhorred by most people who call themselves conservative 
Here is the 25-point manifesto of the National Socialist German Workers 
Party, written in February 25th, 1920 by the leader of that party, [Godwin.]

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/25Points.html

I would strongly suggest that the socialist bent of points 11-17 (presented 
below) would seem unpalatable with those who call themselves conservative, 
from rural Red-State thumpers to Wall Street/Enron fat-cats alike:

"11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, 
be abolished.

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in life and 
property, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as a 
crime against the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all 
war profits whether in assets or material.

13. We demand the nationalization of businesses which have been organized into 
cartels.

14. We demand that all the profits from wholesale trade shall be shared out.

15. We demand extensive development of provision for old age.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle-class, the 
immediate communalization of department stores which will be rented cheaply 
to small businessmen, and that preference shall be given to small businessmen 
for provision of supplies needed by the State, the provinces and 
municipalities.

17. We demand a land reform in accordance with our national requirements, and 
the enactment of a law to confiscate from the owners without compensation any 
land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the 
prohibition of all speculation in land."

This was what socialist fascism looked like at T-minus 18 years before 
Domestic Terror Hell, and the Brown Shirts, the SA, and all that CRAP. (Cue 
up the "Horst Wessel" Song, scratchy phonograph version preferred.)

Now the question is, -IF- the USA is on that path, is it coming for us faster, 
or slower, and are there any safe railroad sidings we can divert to INSTEAD.

- GLL

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