[PLUG-TALK] begging the question

Tony Rick tonyr42 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 5 00:55:23 UTC 2009


On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:49 PM, John Jason Jordan <johnxj at comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 13:31:57 -0700
> Russell Johnson <russj at dimstar.net> dijo:
>
>> The construct that bugs the hell out of me is 'You've got mail!'.
>>
>> If you expand the contraction, it's 'You have got mail!', which does
>> not sound right. At the same time, 'You've mail!', nor 'You got mail!'
>> don't sound right. So, if my grammar is correct, the only correct way
>> would be 'You have mail!'
>>
>> Or am I all wet... :)
>
> All of the above expressions are grammatical in one variety of English
> or another. What bugs you is that 'You've got mail!' is not grammatical
> in your variety.
>
> Do feel free to speak any way you wish, though. The rest of us all
> do. :)
>
> My personal grating expression is 'these ones' and 'those ones,' common
> among young people these days. However, I dare not say anything
> because, in fact, my variety of English is the one which is illogical.
> I can say 'this one' and 'that one,' so why can I not say 'these ones'
> and 'those ones'?
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... to say nothing of 'anyways'  (or have we already been over that gound?) ...

- tony



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