[PLUG-TALK] Porn on the Net...
Aaron
ke7ezt at gmail.com
Wed Oct 28 02:05:54 UTC 2009
aaron at kalosaurusrex:~$
Discere docendo - To learn through teaching.
Libera Te Tutemet - You, free yourself.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 18:55, Jeme A Brelin <jeme at brelin.net> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Russell Johnson wrote:
> > No, no, no. There is a reason the right to free speech is 1st in the
> > bill of rights. Free speech is the most important human right there
> > is. Once you trample free speech, human rights are gone.
>
> Russell, the first amendment didn't need to take a back seat to human
> rights in the 1780s when the Bill of Rights was written because there was
> pretty much no conception that speech or press could possibly be
> detrimental to human rights.
>
> Now, Michael's ideas are kooky in the extreme (due to his correlated
> handicaps of disorganized thought, muddy reasoning, and Catholicism), but
> it is true that we can inhibit the PRODUCTION of certain destructive media
> because the production is an illegal act (rather than the dissemination,
> which is the speech act legally). So while it may be perfectly legal to
> distribute pictures of yourself having sex with a dog and, indeed,
> perfectly legal to take such pictures, it can be illegal to have sex with
> the dog in the first place. In that aspect, the "speech" takes a backseat
> to the rights of the participants in its production.
>
> Michael, of course, wants to go way too far with this and cites his
> extreme minority opinions on the nature of sexual morality (his is much
> more like a hardline muslim fundamentalist than like the average American
> Christian -- let alone average American) and made-up facts about the
> relationship between sexual abuse and adult entertainment. Leaving all of
> that aside, there is a point where speech and other rights collide and the
> right of speech does not supersede and that's not a bad thing.
>
>
I think it's GREAT that MIchael has the ability because of free speech to
speak his mind. This has been a great conversation! Thank you America!
> J.
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