[PLUG-TALK] Religion is not bad...

David Fierbaugh da6d.fierbaugh at gmail.com
Thu Oct 29 21:43:57 UTC 2009


"If God prevents all evil, the good are not tested and not able
to earn His love."

So we have to earn God's love? Here I thought he was supposed to just love
us all the time regardless of what we do/have done/will do/believe.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Michael Robinson
<plug_1 at robinson-west.com>wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 14:02 -0700, Aaron wrote:
> > "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
> > Then he is not omnipotent.
> > Is he able, but not willing?
> > Then he is malevolent.
> > Is he both able and willing?
> > Then whence cometh evil?
> > Is he neither able nor willing?
> > Then why call him God?"
> >
> > Epicurius (341-270 BC)
>
> If God prevents all evil, the good are not tested and not able
> to earn His love.
>
> Just because God allows evil does not mean that He is less than
> omnipotent as knowing what will happen does not have to have any
> impact on letting it happen.  If I know that I'm going to get hit
> by a car tomorrow and die, I don't have to do anything to prevent
> that.  I could just simply accept that it's my time.
>
> Evil comes from pride, wanting to be greater than God in some way.
> The greatest manifestation of evil is Lucifer, more commonly called
> Satan.  God created Lucifer as an angel, but Lucifer fell.  God
> neither eradicated Lucifer nor did He change him.  Lucifer got
> what he wanted after he fell, a place called hell to torture those
> who permanently turn their back on God.  Lucifer hates that which
> is of God because of his pride.
>
> Without God, there will never be peace.  As far as quoting Matthew,
> you can't quote him if you don't believe in God.  Men are incapable
> of loving each other without God's help.  I reject Islam because
> muslims reject Jesus Christ saying He is just a prophet.  Islam is
> problematic because it is splintered where there are fights between
> Sunni and Shiite.  I reject Atheism because there is a God and Atheists
> have no leg to stand on when it comes to peace, freedom, and love.  Love
> does not come from man, it comes from God.
>
> Do you honestly believe that the United Nations can mend the rift
> between Sunni and Shiite?  Can the United Nations eradicate anti
> Semitism and anti Catholicism in the world?  No, it cannot.  Mens
> hearts can only be influenced by the creator through the prayers
> of His children.
>
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