[PLUG-TALK] Religion is not bad...
Aaron
ke7ezt at gmail.com
Fri Oct 30 19:58:03 UTC 2009
Hey Michael.
I enjoy the conversation, but I think insulting someone or calling them
names because of a differing opinion is itself, cowardly. It means that you
don't have any thing better to add to the conversation than calling names.
It's mean, hurtful, and I must say, not very Christ or God like.
Ya think?
aaron at kalosaurusrex:~$
Discere docendo - To learn through teaching.
Libera Te Tutemet - You, free yourself.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:46, Michael Robinson <plug_1 at robinson-west.com>wrote:
> Wes, I've told you about miracles and apparitions that have really
> happened and you have ignored me over and over and over. You can
> ignore me at first glance, but you should look into them if you are
> at all a conscientious person deserving any respect from anyone.
> Miracles of the Eucharist are still around today. You need to go
> to Europe and visit Fatima. You need to visit Lourdes. You need to
> visit the place in Japan where the statue of the virgin Mary bled.
> And this has happened in other places as well by the way. I'm not
> going to say that every story of a Mary statue bleeding is true,
> but stories of it that are true have been tested scientifically
> or it wouldn't be known that the blood is human and that no known
> trick was used to cause the statue to bleed. If you are closed
> minded in that you won't accept the truth even if it is right in
> front of your nose, nobody can help you. God won't help you unless
> someone prays for you perhaps. That is a major hint to anybody
> reading this who believes in God concerning what they should do.
>
> The heart of Joan of Arc after she was burned at the stake as a
> heretic by the corrupt English court system did remain and was
> solid gold. The miracle of the Eucharist that happened in
> Portland at St. Stanislaus did happen. The virgin Mary,
> the mother of Jesus, has been appearing and warning people
> that they need to pray, obey God's law, and fast to avert
> chastisements. Only a doubting Thomas would say I have
> to see a picture of a miracle to believe that miracles happen.
> Even then, you won't believe as you will question how the
> picture was produced and claim that it's a photo shop job.
> You are impossible to convince because you won't look into
> these things yourself. Someone has to bring it to you on
> a silver platter, which is very hard to do. You have decided
> what is true and what isn't about God and Christianity without
> making an effort of any kind whatsoever to make sure you are
> right.
>
> As I see it, you selfishly want to remain an atheist because
> you don't trust that you would be better off as a man of God.
> You are a coward Wes. You argue with me without scholarship
> and you are angry, very angry. I'm not your problem Wes, you
> are your own problem.
>
> Miracles aren't necessary to believe in God, but they can be nice
> tangible things to use as a reason for faith.
>
> What reason do I have to lie about the truths in the bible? Why
> would I lie about miracles? Do you honestly think I could convince
> you to believe anything by lying to you Wes and getting caught
> lying? Number one, faith comes from God. Number two, faith is
> revealed to us as Truth.
>
> For a second Wes do something terrifying and accept that every
> miracle in the bible and every other miracle I've tried to
> mention really did happen. If you knew this to be true, what
> would be your position on God? Would you have faith in Him?
> The ultimate goal of reasoning, of rational thought, is to find
> the Truth. There is a single Truth and that Truth is where you
> will find God.
>
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