[PLUG-TALK] Religion is not bad...

Aaron ke7ezt at gmail.com
Sat Oct 31 05:32:18 UTC 2009


Sorry--I meant:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbYtqAWDF2U

This is my god. Thanks. muahahah

aaron at kalosaurusrex:~$
Discere docendo - To learn through teaching.
Libera Te Tutemet - You, free yourself.




On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 22:30, Ronald Chmara <ronabop at gmail.com> wrote:

> > YOU ARE BLIND AND ANNOYING.
>
> ?
>
> > READ THIS AGAIN, CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM
> > ARE COUSINS.  JUDAISM DOES NOT REJECT WORSHIPING A MAN GOD AS THE
> > SAVIOR THE JEWS WAIT FOR IS TO BE A MAN BORN OF A WOMAN.
>
> The messiah they sought/seek wasn't a god, it was the man who was
> going to be the restored King of Israel, and rule over a world of
> global peace. Totally different thing.  (The whole "king of the jews"
> taunt make more sense to you now?)
>
> > JESUS IS THE SAME GOD AS, "I AM."
>
> Some people make that argument, but it's just that:an argument.
>
> >  YOU CANNOT SEPARATE JESUS FROM THE FATHER, THE GOD THE
> > JEWS KNOW, ANYMORE THAN YOU CAN SEPARATE THE HOLY SPIRIT FROM JESUS OR
> > THE FATHER.
>
> Oh, so god couldn't be split, sent here, and then tempted by himself,
> and feel forsaken by himself?
>
> > Cathoicism does not have gods and retains the Jewish
> > commandment, thou shall not have other false gods before me.
>
> That's a horrible translation. The main variants on that (of repeated)
> chunk of text about is not worshiping any other gods *more*.
>
> > If you
> > were to properly understand Catholicism, you'd realize that it is
> > monotheistic just like it's Jewish parent.
>
> Judaism has had polytheistic, and monotheistic, strains and roots,
> just like Catholicism has had. Ignorance of them doesn't mean they
> never existed.
>
> > With all due respect, you
> > are limiting God by saying He can not take on the form and experience of
> > Man.
>
> I thought god couldn't be split?
>
> > The lack of proper scholarship is the problem that is getting
> > you way off base here.
>
> LOL, it's kind of funny to hear that from somebody who doesn't seem to
> understand the polytheistic roots of Judaism.
>
> > You don't understand Nicea.
>
> I seem to recall a conversation where you weren't even aware of
> Arius... oh, I understand it all right.
>
> > The Catholic church has NEVER taught that
> > there is more than one God.
>
> Not in the last 1700 years they haven't. They decided that they should
> do the same thing as their forefathers, and merge all the different
> gods into "one", and claim that it was really just one god the whole
> time.
>
> > Don't think you can claim that Catholicism is
> > polytheistic though and get away with it without hearing a strong
> > protest from those who know the truth.
>
> Let me know when they stop worshiping saints, Mary, Jesus, etc.
>
> It's intellectually dishonest to worship a bunch of different entities
> as "god" and claim that they are different, but the same.
>
> -Bop
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