[PLUG-TALK] Surveillance, elections, media, and blackmail

Keith Lofstrom keithl at gate.kl-ic.com
Fri Jul 26 15:11:26 PDT 2013

> On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:27:39 -0700
> Keith Lofstrom <keithl at gate.kl-ic.com> dijo:
> >This is why we should restrict the size of our intelligence
> >agencies, carefully specify their tasks, make their operations
> >as publically transparent as possible, and design manipulation-
> >resistant oversight organizations and watch those, too.  This
> >may not even be possible, but until we engage every source of
> >ideas we have, and debate them publically and cooperatively,
> >we won't know, will we?  Ignorance does not excuse failure.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:26:16PM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> This is not a new problem: As Juvenal said: Quis custodiet ipsos
> custodes?

The answer in a healthy democracy is "omnes", everybody.  Some
tasks can't be delegated.


Keith Lofstrom          keithl at keithl.com         Voice (503)-520-1993

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