[PLUG-TALK] Violence

Denis Heidtmann denis.heidtmann at gmail.com
Tue Jun 2 14:58:47 UTC 2020


Very well put, Tomas.  So true.

-Denis

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 1:33 AM Tomas Kuchta <tomas.kuchta.lists at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> I am sad to hear about the sensless stack on you. I wish you speedy
> recovery, both physically and mentally. The trust in people around you will
> probably take the longest to heal.
>
> I have experienced fair share of sensless attacks on me for various
> reasons - for simply standing out, being blow in, bullying, right of
> passage, and of course alcohol/drugs. None of that fits the bill in your
> description.
>
> Given what is going on right now - it seems the pitchforks and torches are
> out. The angry, poor, hopeless and oppressed have rised up to action. Each
> and every one of them with different axe to grind.
>
> Perhaps, all that happened to you was a broken man without future taking
> his anger out on random member of upper class as he saw it.
>
> Yes, it has come to that - for significant part of the society - people
> with own home, who are secure in their means and can just go for walk - are
> the unreachable upper class. Our seemingly normal situation with daily
> worries is outside their reality,  beyond the reach of their realistic
> dreams and aspirations.
>
> I have never seen so much shocking powerty and generational hopelessness
> in the so called developed world. The amount of social inenequality,
> injustice  and the associated pressure right in the fabric of society is a
> powder keg waiting to be lit.
>
> Perhaps that is what you experienced today, one poor man taking his anger
> on someone living in clouds outside his realm.
>
> All the best,
> - T
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020, 20:56 John Jason Jordan <johnxj at gmx.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 19:52:18 -0700
>> Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtmann at gmail.com> dijo:
>>
>> >That is a terrible thing.  I am glad that he hit your arm, not your
>> >head. Your question, is any place safe, is certainly appropriate.  Do
>> >you suppose that the passersby knew the culprit?
>>
>> I suspect that the passers by knew the assailant, or at least had seen
>> him; that is, according to the police the assailant was probably living
>> down along the freeway. From the east and west ends of the Ainsworth /
>> I-5 overpass one can just walk down to the freeway. There are always
>> homeless people down there, and I suspect that the passers by were also
>> homeless people, which also explains why the witness didn't stick
>> around.
>>
>> >I just read an opinion piece from the Guardian.  They distinguish
>> >between violence toward property and violence toward people.  They
>> >make the case that only the latter should be considered violence.
>> >Then they offer that almost all of the violence these last few days
>> >has been perpetrated by the police.  Could be, but you are a survivor
>> >who might disagree.
>>
>> The Guardian is nuts. If you harm someone's property the judicial
>> penalty is less than if you harm the person. Both are violence. If you
>> want to change the names of the crimes it doesn't change the nature of
>> the crime. As for the police, the Portland police have had their not so
>> stellar incidents, but I'll take my chances with them over most of
>> their brethren in other cities.
>>
>> >Do you have any reason to associate your attack with the present
>> >conditions?  Why do you suppose that the witnesses did not assist you,
>> >or even speak to you?  Do you have any hope that the culprit will ever
>> >be identified?
>>
>> The assailant was white, about 25 years old. He struck at my left
>> shoulder because I was wearing a sling on my left arm. In other words,
>> my guess is that he was trying to aggravate my injury. I would bet that
>> he was on some kind of drug. Otherwise his attack makes no sense - he
>> made no demands for money, no claims that I had aggrieved him somehow -
>> in fact, he said nothing at all.
>>
>> I hope the police can capture the individual, but I have little hope
>> that they will. They asked me to give them a description, but during
>> the incident it did not occur to me to catalog his physical
>> characteristics. The police were probably hoping that I could supply
>> them with a photo, as I had my phone in my hand when they arrived. It
>> did not occur to me to take his picture, but if I had he might have
>> grabbed my phone and stomped it to pieces.
>>
>> Since the assailant is doubtless homeless he has nothing to lose. If
>> the police do manage to capture him it is doubtful that they will be
>> able to keep him off the streets for long. That is the part that I find
>> disturbing. He will just attack someone else.
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