[PLUG-TALK] most common language spoken at home other than English or Spanish

David Mandel dmandel at davidmandel.com
Sun Oct 17 11:47:46 PDT 2021

I used to work with a lot of Vietnamese Americans, so I attended quite a
few Vietnamese weddings.  They were great.

As a Catholic, I'm sort of used to attending church services where you
don't understand everything.  Mass was still in Latin when I was young.
Had to learn a bit of it to be an altar boy.  When I lived in Malaysia in
my Peace Corps days I usually attended Sunday Mass at the cathedral in
Kuala Lumpur where Mass was in English, but anytime I got off schedule I
would attend a nearby parish where Mass was in Chinese.  The truth is I
wasn't even sure if they were speaking Mandarin or Cantonese.  Both
dialects are used in Kuala Lumpur.  My son and his family live in Denver.
Their local parish (All Saints) has Sunday Mass in Vietnamese, Hmong,
Spanish, English, and bilingual.  Due to scheduling, I usually attend the
bilingual Mass.  My parish in Corvallis is primarily English, but we do
have one Mass in Spanish every week and our priests all come
from Argentina.

David Mandel

On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 5:39 AM Keith Lofstrom <keithl at kl-ic.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 11:05:02 -0700 Galen Seitz <galens at seitzassoc.com>:
> ><https://twitter.com/Locati0ns/status/1448703737833287680/photo/1>
> >What do you think John?  Believable?
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 11:49:03AM -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> > I'd be more inclined to give it some credence if the authors of the web
> > page had stated their methodology, most importantly the source of their
> > data. As it stands it appears to be a collection of personal opinions
> > from English speakers with no attempt at verification. These days, even
> > census data frequently raises questions.
> The sources are at the bottom - Business Insider ( a subscription
> service ) probably downloaded US census tables as an excel
> spreadsheet and sorted them, then drew a pretty map.  The
> US census tables are interpolated for years like 2017, and
> includes estimate percentages and errors.
> The actual tablulated data from the US census,
> extrapolated to 2017, is here:
> https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?q=DP02&g=0100000US%240400000&tid=ACSDP1Y2017.DP02&hidePreview=true
> I'm busy, but if there are any obsessive programmers
> here :-), I imagine the downloaded tables could be
> crunched and sorted into a 50 state table of "third
> languages" in a few hours.
> The interyear US census tables may be extrapolated
> from the 1980, 1990, 2000, and 2010 censuses.
> The site has a note that the 2020 census data hasn't been
> released yet because of COVID.  And perhaps top-down
> interference with that census.  Expect a LOT of controversy
> erupting during the 2022 election; representation and
> elections are supposed to be calibrated by the US census.
> The spirit of January 6 endures, unfortunately.
> (There can't be that many Democrats!  They were all
> killed by vaccination, according to Qanon!  RIOT!!! )
> Keith
> P.S.  I don't doubt Vietnamese is third most common
> language in Oregon.  I've attended Vietnamese weddings;
> "word word word Maria word word word"  My wife's med
> school study buddy was a "boat person".  There are indeed
> many different languages spoken in Vietnam, but the
> Vietnamese who escaped here were mostly urban Catholics.
> The twitter map shows a concentration of Hmong hill
> people (mostly from Laos) in Wisconsin, relative to
> Vietnamese - here's the story:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hmong_in_Wisconsin
> My downstairs apartment neighbors in the late 70's were
> Hmong - when they first moved in, they built a fire in
> the electric oven.  We showed them how to work the
> burners and oven, and pay their power bill.  Their
> grandkids are probably scientists and lawyers now.
> --
> Keith Lofstrom          keithl at keithl.com
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