From plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org Thu Mar 11 13:38:01 2004 From: plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org (Wil Cooley) Date: Thu Mar 11 13:38:01 2004 Subject: [PLUG-WEB] Links to archives Message-ID: <1079041073.16887.87.camel@denk.nakedape.priv> --=-ilaBZf0F6joRBH4Kqeq7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Geoff et al, I've made the list archives accessible outside of SSL, so the search engines can crawl them. There is, however, no external link to them. I propose we make the "Mailing list" link in the headers point to a new page, with a containing listinfo and archive links for the main list, the plug-talk list, and maybe another list or two, for easy human reference, and at the bottom include links to the main Mailman listinfo page and the archives directory. Something like this: -------------- List Archive Description plug archive Blah plug-talk archive Blah ... ... ... Complete list of mailing lists can be found at https://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo. Complete list of mailing list archives can be found at http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/ -------------- Wil -------------- --=20 Wil Cooley wcooley@nakedape.cc Naked Ape Consulting http://nakedape.cc * * * * Linux, UNIX, Networking and Security Solutions * * * * * Naked Ape Consulting http://nakedape.cc * * Tired of spam and viruses in your e-mail? * * Get the Naked Ape Mail Defender! http://nakedape.cc/r/md * --=-ilaBZf0F6joRBH4Kqeq7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBAUNwxJpn3uYWUEaoRAvjAAJ0V7glRhnA4DiFDROO0Kl382SIbhACgoV5e QIhvqdiEgg57/vGja4quuTI= =98h4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ilaBZf0F6joRBH4Kqeq7-- From plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org Thu Mar 11 13:44:01 2004 From: plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org (Wil Cooley) Date: Thu Mar 11 13:44:01 2004 Subject: [PLUG-WEB] Links to archives In-Reply-To: <1079041073.16887.87.camel@denk.nakedape.priv> References: <1079041073.16887.87.camel@denk.nakedape.priv> Message-ID: <1079041399.16887.89.camel@denk.nakedape.priv> --=-0am7BaCcjX4icVJQdMAa Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 13:37, Wil Cooley wrote: > I've made the list archives accessible outside of SSL, so the search > engines can crawl them. There is, however, no external link to them. I should also add that I submitted the URL to Google for indexing. Wil --=20 Wil Cooley wcooley@nakedape.cc Naked Ape Consulting http://nakedape.cc * * * * * * Linux Consulting in Portland, Oregon * * * * * * =20 * Naked Ape Consulting http://nakedape.cc * --=-0am7BaCcjX4icVJQdMAa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBAUN13Jpn3uYWUEaoRAospAJsGHHdMqAuw4rAgRubzocslIOLvHACfZjjp cZppnYKFxoOiZh1WkrEPM60= =88ps -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-0am7BaCcjX4icVJQdMAa-- From plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org Fri Mar 12 09:45:02 2004 From: plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org (Geoff Burling) Date: Fri Mar 12 09:45:02 2004 Subject: [PLUG-WEB] Links to archives In-Reply-To: <1079041399.16887.89.camel@denk.nakedape.priv> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Wil Cooley wrote: > On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 13:37, Wil Cooley wrote: > > > I've made the list archives accessible outside of SSL, so the search > > engines can crawl them. There is, however, no external link to them. > > I should also add that I submitted the URL to Google for indexing. > Excellent work, Wil. And my compliments to Russell Senior for putting the archives into useable shape, too! Geoff From plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org Fri Mar 12 09:54:02 2004 From: plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org (Russell Senior) Date: Fri Mar 12 09:54:02 2004 Subject: [PLUG-WEB] Links to archives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8665dax88p.fsf@coulee.tdb.com> >>>>> "Geoff" == Geoff Burling writes: Geoff> Excellent work, Wil. Geoff> And my compliments to Russell Senior for putting the archives Geoff> into useable shape, too! Hey, don't get carried away. I don't think that Wil is working from any product of my effort (because I haven't delivered anything substantial yet). I did provide the old skylab archives, as I had them, but the larger archive is still a work in progress. -- Russell Senior ``I have nine fingers; you have ten.'' seniorr@aracnet.com From plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org Fri Mar 12 10:16:01 2004 From: plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org (Wil Cooley) Date: Fri Mar 12 10:16:01 2004 Subject: [PLUG-WEB] Links to archives In-Reply-To: <8665dax88p.fsf@coulee.tdb.com> References: <8665dax88p.fsf@coulee.tdb.com> Message-ID: <1079115310.16887.137.camel@denk.nakedape.priv> --=-BTyuWuvLEeeglT3vSp6y Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 09:53, Russell Senior wrote: > Geoff> Excellent work, Wil. >=20 > Geoff> And my compliments to Russell Senior for putting the archives > Geoff> into useable shape, too! >=20 > Hey, don't get carried away. I don't think that Wil is working from > any product of my effort (because I haven't delivered anything > substantial yet). I did provide the old skylab archives, as I had > them, but the larger archive is still a work in progress. Yeah, all I did was change the HTTP redirect that forced requests to lists.pdxlinux.org to the SSL page; I didn't get the old stuff on-line. Wil --=20 Wil Cooley wcooley@nakedape.cc Naked Ape Consulting http://nakedape.cc * * * * Linux, UNIX, Networking and Security Solutions * * * * * Naked Ape Consulting http://nakedape.cc * --=-BTyuWuvLEeeglT3vSp6y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBAUf4tJpn3uYWUEaoRAvnBAJ9UhZuAPVqc1k670t6sOaGd+SDvUwCfa59b jivUq70V1hznfZ8lcjZm5cQ= =6AHz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-BTyuWuvLEeeglT3vSp6y-- From plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org Sat Mar 13 01:30:02 2004 From: plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org (Geoff Burling) Date: Sat Mar 13 01:30:02 2004 Subject: [PLUG-WEB] Links to archives In-Reply-To: <1079115310.16887.137.camel@denk.nakedape.priv> Message-ID: On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Wil Cooley wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 09:53, Russell Senior wrote: > > > Geoff> Excellent work, Wil. > > > > Geoff> And my compliments to Russell Senior for putting the archives > > Geoff> into useable shape, too! > > > > Hey, don't get carried away. I don't think that Wil is working from > > any product of my effort (because I haven't delivered anything > > substantial yet). I did provide the old skylab archives, as I had > > them, but the larger archive is still a work in progress. > > Yeah, all I did was change the HTTP redirect that forced requests to > lists.pdxlinux.org to the SSL page; I didn't get the old stuff on-line. > What, neither of you two like attaboys? Okay, then, back to work you Window-munching slackers! ;-) More seriously, I did re-read Wil's original note after I sent this out, & made the changes he suggested. Try the links out & see whether my changes suck. (And since the archives are now linked from the front page, that means Google's Scooter ought to have our entire mailing list in their index within a month. Geoff From plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org Sat Mar 13 09:40:02 2004 From: plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org (Wil Cooley) Date: Sat Mar 13 09:40:02 2004 Subject: [PLUG-WEB] Links to archives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1079199569.29633.12.camel@denk.nakedape.priv> --=-lC4OCXS6L/4eiqYIwkwO Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 17:36, Geoff Burling wrote: > > What, neither of you two like attaboys? Okay, then, back to work you > Window-munching slackers! ;-) >=20 > More seriously, I did re-read Wil's original note after I sent this out, > & made the changes he suggested. Try the links out & see whether my > changes suck. (And since the archives are now linked from the front page, > that means Google's Scooter ought to have our entire mailing list in > their index within a month. Or sooner: http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dsite%3Alists.pdxlinux.org+karlheg&btnG=3DG= oogle+Search Wil --=20 Wil Cooley wcooley@nakedape.cc Naked Ape Consulting http://nakedape.cc * * * * Linux, UNIX, Networking and Security Solutions * * * * * Naked Ape Consulting http://nakedape.cc * --=-lC4OCXS6L/4eiqYIwkwO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBAU0dRJpn3uYWUEaoRAl5NAKCfOsXZfDyyglivtFEyhyuD20dG9QCfRkVF D8gmJVnM0oFCcHpt/tIrA+4= =ldfG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-lC4OCXS6L/4eiqYIwkwO-- From plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org Mon Mar 15 00:17:02 2004 From: plug-web@lists.pdxlinux.org (Russell Senior) Date: Mon Mar 15 00:17:02 2004 Subject: [PLUG-WEB] Links to archives In-Reply-To: <1079199569.29633.12.camel@denk.nakedape.priv> References: <1079199569.29633.12.camel@denk.nakedape.priv> Message-ID: <86hdwqfrud.fsf@coulee.tdb.com> We might be wanting to tweek robots.txt a bit. If I do a search for: site:lists.pdxlinux.org "seniorr" The top hits are all the all-in-one-mbox file and the monthly file archives. Maybe I am posting too much! ;-) There is probably a google search modifier to only get .html files (??). As a searcher, I am more likely to want to see individual messages. Also, I would really prefer to see the real email addresses in the pipermail html files instead of the munged "plug@lists.pdxlinux.org" in the from line. The bodies often contain the real email address anyway, so WTF is the munging buying us? I both: a) want people reading my emails to be able to reach me; and b) want to be able to reach people whose messages I am reading. -- Russell Senior ``I have nine fingers; you have ten.'' seniorr@aracnet.com