[PLUG] Micro$oft at it again.

[sendai]

This is exactly the type of input that needs to be brought up.  The fact is
that it would take way too long to phase MS out completely.  There are
25,000 machines in PSD.  Of these maybe 22,000 could be upgraded quickly and
easily.  The remaining 3000 would require greater involvement and therefore
could not be completed in time to duck the audit.  However, auditing 3000
machines is a much less daunting task than 25,000.  No matter what happens
there will inevitably be at least a few hundred machines that will remain MS
for whatever reason.  But again, a few hundred or even a few thousand
licenses are much less of a burden than 25,000.

Is MS demanding that they audit every machine MS run or not?  If so, part of
the conversion would be auditing the new software as it goes in, taking the
cost and effort away from the school districts.  That is a win-win.

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From: plug-admin at lists.pdxlinux.org
[mailto:plug-admin at lists.pdxlinux.org]On Behalf Of Miller, Jeremy
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:00 PM
To: 'plug at lists.pdxlinux.org'
Subject: RE: [PLUG] Micro$oft at it again.


Good idea... make it known to the public that people are trying to volunteer
and help.  But be careful not to push TOO hard from the public side.

In the case that some things are not readily changable (existing vertical
apps in particular) you wouldn't want the schools to be facing one demand
from one side (MS: Sumbit to our new license or "death by audit") and
another from the opposite side (Public: Drop everything on MS NOW.  No
compromises allowed.)  Yes, it's highly unlikely... but undesirable.  We
need to try to offer solutions, not blanket demands to be met.

I say this only to make sure wiggle room is retained for any existing apps
that would take longer than the allowed time to migrate.  And those that may
not have any replacement at all.  (Or at least not yet.)  The first 95%
usually isn't too hard... it's this stuff that makes up the last 5%.  And is
often mission-critical.  I don't know if they have anything like that, but
if they do it can be a real killer.

We need to know what they have beyond everyday office/web type stuff. What
apps really make everything tick.

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Jeremy Miller - jmiller at ci.albany.or.us
City of Albany/Albany Public Library
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sendai [mailto:sendai at thedustyshelf.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:34 AM
> To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
> Subject: RE: [PLUG] Micro$oft at it again.
>
>
>
> I agree that we need a liason to PSD, but let's not forget
> that they are not
> the only ones affected by this.  MS is doing this to 9
> schools in Oregon and
> 14 in Washington.  They should all be the focus of this
> campaign.  Also, we
> need a liason to the public, since the decision is really
> theirs, whether
> the schools support it or not.  If we get the public's
> support the schools
> will follow and vice versa.
>
> >I think that before trying to meet and organize, someone really
> >needs to find out who's in charge at the PSD and find out what
> >could be done.  It may be that they're totally resistant to a Linux
> >migration or that they'll all for it; I suspect it's somewhere in
> >between, but meeting to talk about what would be done without any
> >idea of what would be done seems like a waste of time.
>
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