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[Tyler F. Creelan]

On 21 Aug 2002, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> Will it hibernate (suspend to disk)?  If it's capable of it, I know
> how to make that work under Linux.

Karl - I've been trying to get ACPI going in Debian for a while now and
can't figure out; all the documentation I can find is several years out
of date. Where did you figure this stuff out and can you post a howto of
some sort?

Thanks,

Tyler

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Tyler F. Creelan
College of Engineering
Oregon State University
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"As we enjoy great Advantages from the Inventions of others
we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any
Invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously."

--Benjamin Franklin
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On 21 Aug 2002, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:

> Mark Morgan <lemming at attbi.com> writes:
>
> > Jeme A Brelin wrote:
> > > Quite frankly, when I see these Debian v. Red Hat discussions on this
> > > list, I am stunned by how few people actually support Red Hat on technical
> > > merits.  Usually the argument is simply reduced to "Diff'rent strokes for
> > > diff'rent folks" and the Red Hat users urge the discussion dropped.  I've
> > > yet to hear anyone argue that Red Hat is actually superior to Debian in
> > > any way.  Instead, Debian supporters are branded and their arguments
> > > dismissed as zealotry.
> >
> > I haven't checked the latest Debian, but I would say Red Hat is easier
> > to install and worked with all my hardware.  This may of changed with
> > the woody release.
>
> Do the cartoons and soft round cornered GUI provide the illusion that
> it is easier to install?  Does the simple and elegant TUI of the
> Debian "boot-floppies" install really make it seem that hard to
> install?  Does the Red Hat installer speak 8 or 10 languages?
>
> You don't NEED automatic device detection when you are installing
> Debian from a CDROM.  You can install the base Debian system without
> ever loading any driver modules.  After the base is installed and the
> post install reboot, you simply type:
>
> # apt-get install discover aptitude
>
> ... and at that point you will have hardware auto detection and a
> wonderful TUI for software installation managment.
>
> # apt-get install etherconf
>
> ... and you'll have network configuration, which you can change at any
> time with a simple (once you learn of it):
>
> # dpkg-reconfigure etherconf
>
> >From that point on, you're on the net, and thus have all available
> resources at your fingertips.  You'll find "task" packages for the X
> Window System desktop in the "aptitude" user interface.  You may
> choose Gnome or KDE, or build your own from a plethora of available
> window managers.
>
> > I've been playing around with different distributions on my Sony Vaio
> > PCG-F580.
>
> Is that an i386 arch CPU?  What is it?  Will it hibernate (suspend to
> disk)?  If it's capable of it, I know how to make that work under
> Linux.  All of the tools required are part of Debian, but not in the
> default installer...  I have a static copy of "lphdisk", which is
> required to format the hibernation partition.
>
> > Ones I've gone through the entire install and used for at least a few
> > days: SuSe 7.3, SuSe 8.0, Redhat 7.3, Mandrake 8.2, Gentoo 1.2
>
> Would you like a Debian 3.0r0 (Woody) CDROM so you can try that also?
> I can burn one for you if you like, no charge.
>
> > Of these, only Redhat installed correctly.  Mainly due to my pcmcia
> > NIC. SuSe needed tweaking of a conf file before it would work, but
> > probably needed the second least amount of work to get running the way
> > I wanted it too. (For some reason, Mandrake gave me trouble, but I
> > don't recall what now.)
>
> PCMCIA should work just fine in the Debian installer.  I've tested it
> on my laptop, and had no trouble at all.  It Just Works.
>
> > On the other hand, having the Redhat site busy for updates all the
> > time means I haven't done any patches. (Though, I'm betting I'm
> > missing some mirror...)
>
> There are a lot of Debian mirrors, and I've never had any trouble
> getting through on donated bandwidth.  They have a brand new security
> build system set up, and security updates are out very soon after the
> upstream patches become available.  You can subscribe to the
> "debian-security-announce" mailing list to be promptly notified when
> update packages become available on the mirror network.
>
> > With SuSe, that was easy.  Their update tool works flawlessly for
> > me. I happen to like SuSe a lot and will be keeping my main server
> > running it for some time.
>
> Does SuSe ship documentation or tools for creating your own update
> server, for the case where you need to shadow their versions or to
> provide packages of software they do not package?  How does their
> update technology operate, I wonder...  and how does it compare to
> "Apt", I wonder?  (the similar wondering about Red Hat's)
>
> > I'm going to go back and load Gentoo again.  I found that
> > distribution to be a fun delve into the nuts and bolts. Plus I do
> > find running at the cutting edge to be a bit of a thrill.
>
> Debian "unstable" is very near the cutting edge.  With "apt-build",
> you can build from source, configured with optimizations for your
> particular CPU.  If a Debian package fails to autobuild, it's
> considered a bug!
>
> > I might try Debian again just for to check it out again.
>
> Email me (karlheg at hegbloom.net) and I'll burn you a CD.  Anyone else?
>
> --
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> the nerves of the body are corroborated thereby. --I. Watts.  .''`.
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