[PLUG] The PLUG Web Page (was: What PLUG Needs)

[Kelly Guimont]

I would be willing to generate content (I'm in the unemployed SIG, I gots
the time, yo) but I don't know what you need. If you give me a couple of
pointers I'd be happy to help. It'd keep my brain even further from atropy
and that's always good. (:

-Kelly


On 6/10/02 5:52 PM, "Geoff Burling" <llywrch at agora.rdrop.com> wrote:

> Neil wrote (inter alia):
> 
>> Unfortunately, there is not much of a Web site to speak of right now.
>> There were plans for build a custom back-end, etc., but those
>> plans seem to be going nowhere right now. What we need is a core of
>> practical developers/designers/content people/admin people to put something
>> together. To get something good up there relatively efficiently.
>> 
>> I am willing to do my part and write content but that is all I am
>> interested in doing (actually, that will take quite a bit of time). I have
>> written some already but we need a better site.
>> 
>> Do we have a designer or two out there willing to put together a nice
>> site? Someone to setup Zope or something like that? We need to just move
>> forward on something in this area. Please join plug-web and state your
>> interest in making something happen.
> 
> I guess you weren't at the last PLUG meeting, where I set out the future
> plans for the Web Site, Neil. What will be done is as follows:
> 
> As Interim Web Page Development Leader, I will be updating parts of what's
> currently there to fix state links & so forth. I will also be adding a
> page to help announce the topic of every meeting, & will be building an
> archive of links to prior meeting topics. My principal stumbling block at
> this point (& why all of this happen for the last meeting) is that I'm
> having some issues with ssh.
> 
> Dave Mandel has a brief history of PLUG that we need to add to the
> Web page.
> 
> Currently, Wil Cooley has rebuilt the web site in PHP format. Writing
> static PHP content is quite simple: I learned how to do it in less than
> half an hour.
> 
> What we have is not the wonderful site people talked about creating six
> months ago, but it exists & gets the job done.
> 
> NOW, if you don't like what's there, or you want to help in creating
> content, my advice is very simple: Do it. Write the content, create a
> new page template, rewrite the web site in Zope, roll-your-own Perl
> scripts, or VisualBasic. But do the work & offer the content.
> 
> I can add the content if you send it to me. If you need an account, contact
> either Karl Hegbloom or Wil Cooley. (Karl has told me that if a person
> proves him or her a trustworthy & capable person, he has no qualms about
> giving the root password to drizzle.)
> 
> What sunk the web page earlier this year, I believe, was the fact people
> got into a cycle of talking about what to do, & never got around to
> creating anything concrete. This is not unique to PLUG: Alan Cox noted
> that this has happened in the past, & how he feels it should be fought --
> see his article ``Cathedrals, Bazaars and the Town Council" on Slashdot,
> http://slashdot.org/features/98/10/13/1423253.shtml
> 
> As Interim Web Page Development Leader, I give everyone permission to
> contribute what they feel the web page needs. PLUG has a lot of capable
> folks in the group, some of whom don't believe they are capable of
> contributing. Let's get some new stuff up on the web site, & start asking
> the PLUG membership for their feedback. Should the unimaginable happen,
> & we have too much activity & people are getting in each others' way,
> then we'll have a meeting & sort things out.
> 
> But let's stop saying we should do something, & simply DO IT. As my
> high school wrestling coach used to say, even doing the wrong thing
> is better than sitting around doing nothing.
> 
> (If you agree with this, don't send a follow-up to the list saying
> something like ``M3 T00". Write content. And if you can't think of what
> to do, I have some ideas. Ideas that a few folks threw out after last
> Thursday's meeting included a wikiwiki page & a database for trading
> computer books. If you think these are good ideas, get an account on
> drizzle & start setting them up.)
> 
> Geoff
> 
> 
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