[PLUG] mail system architecture help

[Mike Culbertson]

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On Wednesday 27 March 2002 16:37, Chuck Mize wrote:

> You've got a big problem. SPEWS is the big stick of the blacklisting world.
> They're anonymous (check out the whois listing for spews.org) and they list
> entire netblocks of ISPs that support spammers (as opposed to individual
> IPs like MAPS does).

On a related note, I'm glad ORBZ is out of operation. Those guys were a bunch 
of morons. The PLUG list would be reported to them on a regular basis (by 
knuckleheads who couldn't figure out how to unsubscribe) and they'd block 
mail.microsharp.com. I went to their page to verify that we weren't running 
an open relay (they claimed only to block open relays), we weren't in their 
published DB and according to their online tests, we weren't an open relay. 
And still our mail would get rejected by servers using ORBZ. 

I sent an e-mail asking what the hell was going on (in a much nicer manner) 
and recieved an angry e-mail from a holier-than-thou type telling me that if 
we weren't in the published list then we couldn't possibly have been 
blackholed. And still our mail would be blocked. 

Eventually they stopped blocking us, but not until after many members had 
been booted, because their mail servers were blocking any correspondence. 
Ever since this happened I've had a hairy eyeball on these robin-hood type 
blackhole lists...

- -- 
Mike Culbertson
mike at microsharp.com
"Someday the mountain might get him, but the law never will"
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