[PLUG] hiring full-time: PHP programmer

Scott VanHoosen octopus024 at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 21 01:20:51 UTC 2002


> The point being that rates are determined by the amount of experience
> and effort that goes into being qualified for the job

That sounds good, unfortunately it isn't true.

You can have every certification in the book, a PhD, and 25 years
experience, but if you're standing in line for a job with 200 others
with your same skills, you won't be able to demand a higher wage.

If you have 6 months experience, no certs or degree, but you're the
only one around who knows about a particular job, you might be able to
demand a nice wage.

The market decides what a good or service is worth. If you can convince
people to buy your pet rocks for $5000, then they are worth $5000. If
you can only get $50 for your used 2001 Mercedes, then it's only worth
$50.

If he can hire a skilled programmer for $25/hour (or $20 or $10 or
whatever) then good for him. If your time is worth $75/hour to you, but
he can't afford that, then he'll have to find someone who will do it
cheaper, do it himself, or do without.

I love America!

-Scott

--- Bear Giles <bgiles at coyotesong.com> wrote:
> PHP freak wrote:
> >>does $25/hour seem low to anyone else for PHP experience
> >
> > But then, we're just a little record store, not a Big Corporate
> Business.
> > Everyone else here works for $8/hr.
> 
> So how much do you pay your lawyer?  Your doctor?
> 
> The point being that rates are determined by the amount of experience
> 
> and effort that goes into being qualified for the job, not just how
> much 
> everyone else is paid.  I might not like paying a plumber or
> electrician 
> $100/hour for work, but I know that it's usually going to be cheaper 
> than me doing it myself.  (And redoing it when I screw it up the
> first 
> time, repairnig the extra damage caused by the first attempt, etc.)
> 
> Assuming that you can figure out which guy deserves $50/hour instead
> of 
> $25, the "more expensive" guy may be cheaper because he'll get the
> job 
> done right the first time, and has enough similar experience to get
> it 
> out quickly since he's already implemented something similar. 
> Meanwhile 
> the "cheaper" guy may be more expensive since he'll implement stuff
> that 
> could never work in practice, miss deadlines (because he doesn't yet 
> have the ability to make good schedule estimates), etc.
> 
> Ultimately, it's your call.  But don't pull the "poor little me"
> line. 
> Not unless you can show that your $8/hr workers have spent as much of
> 
> their own time keeping current with their fields as we have.
> 
> Bear
> 
> 
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