[PLUG] issues with city bicycle page

Percival, Ray Ray.Percival at summit.fiserv.com
Tue Oct 15 19:17:02 UTC 2002


No you don't have to purchase IE but I'm not aware of any OS that it runs on that you do not have to purchase. I guess you could run it on Sun or HPUX but for most desktop users this would mean that you would have to buy Windows.

Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Beart 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:13 PM
To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
Subject: Re: [PLUG] issues with city bicycle page


At 11:11 AM -0700 10/15/02, mikeraz at patch.com wrote:
>
>The page http://www.trans.ci.portland.or.us/bicycles/default.htm 
>only renders on
>Microsoft browsers.  Partly this is due to some coding issues as 
>demonstrated by
>this feedback from the World Wide Web Consortium  HTML validator at 
>http://validator.w3.org/
>
>  Below are the results of attempting to parse this document with an 
>SGML parser.
>
>     * Line 4, column 16:
>
>   <HTML xmlns:mso="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:msdt=" ...
>                  ^
>       Error: there is no attribute "XMLNS
>     * Line 4, column 35:
>
>   ... soft-com:office:office" xmlns:msdt="uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1- ...
>                                          ^
>       Error: there is no attribute "XMLNS



	These errors and code snippets would indicate that this 
"HTML" was created by "exporting" some MS document to HTML. Microsoft 
LOVES to "export" almost anything as HTML, and they tend to use XML 
code in the result.
	In addition, any MS "exported" data nearly always contains MS 
"hooks" to MS products. (e.g. MS Word document, exported to HTML, 
would likely contain FrontPage or Access "hooks".) This is what you 
are seeing.





>I would like to view the department's web pages without being 
>required to purchase
>Microsoft products.  Other Transportation department web pages 
>render fine on non-Microsoft
>platforms, please make the bicycle page(s) compatible also.



	You don't have to "purchase" MS Internet Explorer, which is 
why this browser now (statistically) accounts for roughly 90% of the 
browser market. The current "trend" is for (so called) Web developers 
to only code for MSIE. Sad, but true.

	... One of the many reasons why I can't WAIT to leave this 
(Web development) industry.    :-(





Patrick Beart
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