[PLUG] OT License plates and covers.

Paul Johnson baloo at ursine.ca
Thu Dec 11 18:20:03 UTC 2003


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On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 09:57:42PM -0800, Russ Johnson wrote:
> * Paul Johnson <baloo at ursine.ca> [2003-12-10 19:28]:
> > Exactly.  Even though it's not like we have streetcars on nearly every
> > street like we used to, TriMet, a bicycle, and a cargo trailer is
> > everything you'll ever need to get around if you're within two miles
> > of a transit stop.
> 
> And you plan on never leaving the city. On the other hand, I have family
> all up and down the west coast, and I'd like to see them on occasion.
> Everywhere from Bellingham to LA. 

Good news:  Amtrak serves the I-5 corridor with local service to towns
throughout the west.

> Riding the bus or train to another city is both more expensive (in MY 
> pocketbook, Jeme!) and slower. I can get to Eugene (for example) in 1.5
> hours. 

$40/round trip is cheaper than driving?  You must not be factoring in
wear and tear, insurance, or the car payment if it's not paid off.

> > is making up excuses for overbooking their schedule or trying to
> > justify living centrally located to nothing.
> 
> So just where are all these people supposed to live? If everyone lives
> in the city, then you have a more crowded city. The city isn't designed
> to hold all the people that live in the 'burbs. 

You failed social studies in high school, or just forget why Metro
exists?

Actually, that's exactly the kinds of populations cities are designed
to absorb.  Suburbs where originally where the population not
fortunate enough to be able to centrally locate themselves live.  And
for good reason: No lawn to mow, and you're walking distance to almost
everything instead of walking distance to a transit stop.  Smaller
cities also net you more open space to put towards agricultural and
recreational uses, less traffic, and faster, more effective transit.
LA and Seattle are classic examples of an almost uniquely American
mistake: The concept that the suburb is the city.

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