[PLUG] wireless and a thank you
Gerardo Arnaez
garnaez at yahoo.com
Sun Jan 12 18:57:02 UTC 2003
Hi all. Thanks for replying to my dsl question.
If anyone stops by seaside, let me know and they have
a freidnly wireless AP is needed.
Let me know and I'll clue you in.
Is there any warchalking maps of portland?
thanks all
g
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> 5. qwest dsl (Gerardo Arnaez)
> 6. Re: qwest dsl (Carla Schroder)
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> 8. Re: qwest dsl (Jeme A Brelin)
> 9. Re: qwest dsl (Alan)
> 10. Re: pthreads/glibc question (Alan)
> 11. Re: qwest dsl (Rich Shepard)
> 12. Re: qwest dsl (Carla Schroder)
> 13. USB digital camera (Robert Kopp)
> 14. Re: qwest dsl (john morgali)
> 15. Re: Dream job? (Matt Alexander)
> 16. Re: USB digital camera (David Giraud)
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> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:29:15 -0800 (PST)
> From: Paul Heinlein <heinlein at attbi.com>
> To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Which ports to log?
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Terry Griffin wrote:
>
> > When setting up a firewall with ipchains/iptables,
> which ports to
> > you find most useful to log? I'm finding there's a
> fine line between
> > not enough information and *way* too much
> information.
>
> I basically log every SYN packet that's denied. It
> generates a lot of
> info, but it's the only way I've been able to
> distinguish a host that
> port scanning me from one that's looking for a
> certain vulnerability
> on a certain port.
>
> --Paul Heinlein <heinlein at attbi.com>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:10:18 -0800 (PST)
> From: Matt Alexander <m at netpro.to>
> To: PLUG-PDX <plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
> Subject: [PLUG] Dream job?
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
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>
> http://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/unix-admin.shtml
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:22:50 -0800
> From: Paul Mullen <pem at nellump.net>
> To: PLUG-PDX <plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Dream job?
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 10:10:18AM -0800, Matt
> Alexander wrote:
> >
> > http://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/unix-admin.shtml
>
> Not if you're a champion of open source (or Free
> Software, whichever you
> prefer). Blizzard has a history of releasing their
> attack lawyers to
> surppress any behavior they're uncomfortable with.
> Last I heard, they
> had managed to silence the bnetd project with a few
> good whacks
> of the DMCA club.
>
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> Message: 4
> From: Alan <alan at clueserver.org>
> To: PLUG list <plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
> Organization:
> Date: 12 Jan 2003 12:21:30 -0800
> Subject: [PLUG] pthreads/glibc question
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
>
> I am in the process of researching this, but maybe
> someone here knows
> off the top of their head...
>
> I am using the Redhat 8.0.92 beta. It uses glibc
> 2.3.1 and gcc 3.2.1.
>
> I have been getting lockups, but I built a stock
> kernel version
> 2.4.21-pre3 with the options from the Athlon smp
> kernel used by Redhat.
>
> It boots fine, but pthreads will *not* function at
> all.
>
> Does anyone have an idea why? I was not aware of
> any dependancies of
> pthreads on the kernel version and/or kernel patches
> needed to support
> pthreads. The pthreads library is the one that
> comes from the glibc
> package.
>
> May not seem like a big deal, but there are a number
> of things that
> depend on pthreads. (Like anything using Gnome 2.)
>
> Ideas?
>
> --
> Alan <alan at clueserver.org>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:15:15 -0800 (PST)
> From: Gerardo Arnaez <garnaez at yahoo.com>
> To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
> Subject: [PLUG] qwest dsl
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
> Hi all, I am *finally* getting dsl from qwest out
> here
> in seaside. I read some posts and was a bit
> confused.
> Apparently I am going to have qwest as my ISP?
>
> Does anyone have any suggestins for other ISP that
> can
> service seaside?
> Thanks for your time
>
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> Message: 6
> From: Carla Schroder <pluglist at bratgrrl.com>
> To: <plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] qwest dsl
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:27:38 -0800
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
> On Sunday 12 January 2003 01:15 pm, Gerardo Arnaez
> wrote:
> > Hi all, I am *finally* getting dsl from qwest out
> here
> > in seaside. I read some posts and was a bit
> confused.
> > Apparently I am going to have qwest as my ISP?
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestins for other ISP that
> can
> > service seaside?
> > Thanks for your time
> >
>
> I doubt you have to use Qwest's ISP, the nice thing
> about DSL is, unlike=20
> cable, being able to choose your ISP. Just find your
> local ISPs and see w=
> hat=20
> kind of service and deals they offer.=20
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:32:29 -0800
> From: Mark Morgan <lemming at attbi.com>
> To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Dream job?
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
> Paul Mullen wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 10:10:18AM -0800, Matt
> Alexander wrote:
> >
> >>http://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/unix-admin.shtml
> >
> >
> > Not if you're a champion of open source (or Free
> Software, whichever you
> > prefer). Blizzard has a history of releasing their
> attack lawyers to
> > surppress any behavior they're uncomfortable with.
> Last I heard, they
> > had managed to silence the bnetd project with a
> few good whacks
> > of the DMCA club.
>
> Hmm, I looked at the job posting and went "Ew!
> Irvine."
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:34:49 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jeme A Brelin <jeme at brelin.net>
> To: PLUG <plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] qwest dsl
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
>
> On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Gerardo Arnaez wrote:
> > Hi all, I am *finally* getting dsl from qwest out
> here in seaside. I
> > read some posts and was a bit confused. Apparently
> I am going to have
> > qwest as my ISP?
>
> I seem to recall reading that Qwest doesn't offer
> the option of separate
> ISPs anymore if you sign up THROUGH them. It's all
> MSN.
>
> However, if you go through another ISP to get your
> DSL, you may or may not
> need to use Qwest as your carrier.
>
> I, of course, highly recommend Speakeasy, but I
> can't say whether or not
> they can give you a line out in Seaside.
>
> Make some phone calls and do some web searching. Be
> informed before
> you've agreed to anything serious.
>
> J.
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> Message: 9
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] qwest dsl
> From: Alan <alan at clueserver.org>
> To: PLUG list <plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
> Organization:
> Date: 12 Jan 2003 13:07:27 -0800
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
> On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 13:15, Gerardo Arnaez wrote:
> > Hi all, I am *finally* getting dsl from qwest out
> here
> > in seaside. I read some posts and was a bit
> confused.
> > Apparently I am going to have qwest as my ISP?
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestins for other ISP that
> can
> > service seaside?
>
> The two I recommend are Aracnet.com and Hevanet.com.
> Both have DSL
> service and both have been pretty good to deal with,
> in my opinion.
>
> You will want to get that arranged ASAP. MSN is
> *evil*, even if you do
> use Windows.
>
> --
> Alan <alan at clueserver.org>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] pthreads/glibc question
> From: Alan <alan at clueserver.org>
> To: PLUG list <plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
> Organization:
> Date: 12 Jan 2003 13:28:32 -0800
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
> On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 12:21, Alan wrote:
> > I am in the process of researching this, but maybe
> someone here knows
> > off the top of their head...
> >
> > I am using the Redhat 8.0.92 beta. It uses glibc
> 2.3.1 and gcc 3.2.1.
> >
> > I have been getting lockups, but I built a stock
> kernel version
> > 2.4.21-pre3 with the options from the Athlon smp
> kernel used by Redhat.
> >
> > It boots fine, but pthreads will *not* function at
> all.
> >
> > Does anyone have an idea why? I was not aware of
> any dependancies of
> > pthreads on the kernel version and/or kernel
> patches needed to support
> > pthreads. The pthreads library is the one that
> comes from the glibc
> > package.
> >
> > May not seem like a big deal, but there are a
> number of things that
> > depend on pthreads. (Like anything using Gnome
> 2.)
> >
> > Ideas?
>
> I am starting to get a handle on the problem.
>
> It seems that the new version of Redhat uses a
> couple of kernel patches
> used by glibc. They do not apply cleanly to the
> stock kernel. (They use
> the o1 scheduler patch and a threading patch.) The
> thread library they
> are using is different as well. They are using the
> nptl library.
>
> I am starting to suspect that this is the cause of
> my system hang
> problems.
>
> Ah, the joys of betas...
>
> --
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>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:24:08 -0800 (PST)
> From: Rich Shepard <rshepard at appl-ecosys.com>
> To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] qwest dsl
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
> On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Gerardo Arnaez wrote:
>
> > Hi all, I am *finally* getting dsl from qwest out
> here in seaside. I read
> > some posts and was a bit confused. Apparently I am
> going to have qwest as
> > my ISP?
>
> DSL is a service between your house and your ISP.
> You are free to select
> whomever you want to connect you to the 'Net.
>
> > Does anyone have any suggestins for other ISP that
> can service seaside?
>
> There used to be a dslreports Web site. They can
> tell you who's where.
>
> Local to the Portland/Vancouver area are Aracnet,
> EasyStreet, DSL-only and
> perhaps a couple of others that haven't been sold or
> folded. Other folks
> here will chime in with their favorites.
>
> Rich
>
>
>
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> Message: 12
> From: Carla Schroder <pluglist at bratgrrl.com>
> To: <plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] qwest dsl
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:12:35 -0800
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
> On Sunday 12 January 2003 03:24 pm, Rich Shepard
> wrote:
> > There used to be a dslreports Web site. They can
> tell you who's where=
> =2E
> >
> > Local to the Portland/Vancouver area are
> Aracnet, EasyStreet, DSL-onl=
> y
> > and perhaps a couple of others that haven't been
> sold or folded. Other
> > folks here will chime in with their favorites.
>
> I don't think Seaside counts as Portland/Vancouver.
>
> 'dammit Jim, I'm a computer nerd, not a geography
> professor'
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:15:15 -0800 (PST)
> From: Robert Kopp <iconoklastic at yahoo.com>
> To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
> Subject: [PLUG] USB digital camera
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
> I have an Olympus D-100 digital camera which,
> although
> apparently not included in gphoto, can be mounted as
> a
> storage device some other way. This camera is
> popular
> and has many favorable reviews.
>
> "(Even works on linux with a little kernel tweak:
> in
> drivers/usb/storage/transport.h, search from "x53"
> and
> change it to "x55". Make sure you have the usb
> storage
> module installed, and then 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt'.)"
>
> Comments: where is the file drivers/usb/...etc.? Do
> I
> have the USB storage module installed? How can I
> find
> out? If the device likes to call itself /dev/sda1, I
> suppose that mounting it should be no problem.
>
> From the typical consumer's point of view, access to
> digital cameras may be an important factor in the
> acceptance of Linux. If digital photography is
> important to a person, it might be the only reason
> why
> they need a native Windows partition, unless their
> digital camera can be accessed under Linux. It may
> not
> be realistic to expect 100% of digital cameras to be
> supported under Linux, but there should be enough of
> a
> choice that optical qualities can be the most
> important factor when deciding which digital camera
> to get.
>
> =====
> Robert "Tim" Kopp
> http://analytic.tripod.com/
>
> "SAMBA--opening Windows to a wider world."
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:19:04 -0800 (PST)
> From: john morgali <aarghj at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] qwest dsl
> To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
> Ok, My 2 bits....
>
> I have qwest business dsl. It is fantastic service,
> without an outage one or even a temporary slowdown
> since connection. thats the good.
>
> the bad is here:
> First, It took almost two months to get service in
> my
> new location when it was SUPPOSED to be turned up
> when
> I moved in.
>
> Second, I was quoted 5 different prices in the same
> day for the same service, 3 of which came from the
> SAME REPRESENTATIVE!
>
> Third, when the line was live, on my BUSINESS
> account,
> they shipped me a USB only dsl modem! hardly works
> with my firewall or routing equipment. another two
> weeks later, I had a nice but not much documented
> actiontek wireless capable dsl modem/router.
>
> Lastly, all in all, I would say that I have spent at
> the very least 30 hours(highly conservative, 10
> hours
> in one day alone) on the phone with qwest to get
> both
> the billing and the physical connectivity situations
> squared away.
>
> So, to summarize, the actual connection is
> fantastic,
> and very stable. but the customer service is in no
> uncertain terms shit. absolutely. I cannot stand
> their customer service. their customer service is so
> horrible that they ended up reversing two months
> worth
> of charges and giving an additional free month just
> to
> make up for the hassles I had to go through to get
> things the way they should have been when I
> originally
> ordered it. Would I do it again? hell no. I would
> go with any other isp possible, just so that I didnt
> have to deal with the folks at qwest. Please do
> your
> research before you sign a contract with qwest. you
> will be happier if you do.
>
> and as far as msn, I do believe that msn is now
> their
> only choice of isp for residential accounts, but
> other
> isp's in the area can contract dsl over qwest's
> lines.
> gotta love deregulation.
>
> John
> --- Gerardo Arnaez <garnaez at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi all, I am *finally* getting dsl from qwest out
> > here
> > in seaside. I read some posts and was a bit
> > confused.
> > Apparently I am going to have qwest as my ISP?
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestins for other ISP that
> > can
> > service seaside?
> > Thanks for your time
> >
> >
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> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:53:33 -0800 (PST)
> From: Matt Alexander <m at netpro.to>
> To: PLUG-PDX <plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Dream job?
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
> On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Paul Mullen wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 10:10:18AM -0800, Matt
> Alexander wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/unix-admin.shtml
> >
> > Not if you're a champion of open source (or Free
> Software, whichever you
> > prefer). Blizzard has a history of releasing their
> attack lawyers to
> > surppress any behavior they're uncomfortable with.
> Last I heard, they
> > had managed to silence the bnetd project with a
> few good whacks
> > of the DMCA club.
>
> Exactly! So you can work from the inside to help
> show them the light.
> ;-)
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 16
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] USB digital camera
> From: David Giraud <xhabbo at mac.com>
> To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
> Organization:
> Date: 12 Jan 2003 18:38:58 -0800
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
>
>
> I don't own a digital camera nor do I consider
> myself a Linux guru but I
> might be able to give you a start on how to fix your
> problem.
>
> On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 16:15, Robert Kopp wrote:
>
> > where is the file drivers/usb/...etc.?
>
> Did you try /dev/usb? There might be a storage
> storage directory in
> there. It's the only place I could think of. It
> could be different if
> you're running devfs, some directories can be
> changed around but they
> are still under /dev/usb. (I'm running devfs and
> this happens with my
> Sony Clie)
>
> > Do I have the USB storage module installed?
>
> Assuming you have your kernel source:
>
> # cd /usr/src/linux
> # make menu config
>
> Go to USB Support and enable USB Mass Storage
> Support. You might need
> to select a special option depending on what media
> you want mounted. If
> you change things, save the configuration file,
> rebuild the kernel and
> move the bzImage to the proper place on your system
> and reboot.
>
> > How can I find
> > out? If the device likes to call itself /dev/sda1,
>
>
> If your computer detects your camera, it will output
> a messege in your
> syslog. Try-
>
> $ dmesg
>
> to see everything or
>
> $ dmesg |grep usb
>
> to see whats on USB.
>
> > I suppose that mounting it should be no problem.
>
> Just like anything else. :)
>
> I hope this helps you out.
>
> P.S. This is my first post to this group. Please
> tell me if I'm wrong
> in my advice. :)
>
> --
> David Giraud <xhabbo at mac.com>
> Powered by Gentoo Linux
> Running Linux Since Oct. 2002
>
>
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> Message: 17
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] USB digital camera
> From: Alan <alan at clueserver.org>
> To: PLUG list <plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
> Organization:
> Date: 12 Jan 2003 18:12:53 -0800
> Reply-To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
>
> On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 16:15, Robert Kopp wrote:
> > I have an Olympus D-100 digital camera which,
> although
> > apparently not included in gphoto, can be mounted
> as a
> > storage device some other way. This camera is
> popular
> > and has many favorable reviews.
> >
> > "(Even works on linux with a little kernel tweak:
> in
> > drivers/usb/storage/transport.h, search from "x53"
> and
> > change it to "x55". Make sure you have the usb
> storage
> > module installed, and then 'mount /dev/sda1
> /mnt'.)"
> >
> > Comments: where is the file drivers/usb/...etc.?
> Do I
> > have the USB storage module installed? How can I
> find
> > out? If the device likes to call itself /dev/sda1,
> I
> > suppose that mounting it should be no problem.
> >
> > >From the typical consumer's point of view, access
> to
> > digital cameras may be an important factor in the
> > acceptance of Linux. If digital photography is
> > important to a person, it might be the only reason
> why
> > they need a native Windows partition, unless their
> > digital camera can be accessed under Linux. It may
> not
> > be realistic to expect 100% of digital cameras to
> be
> > supported under Linux, but there should be enough
> of a
> > choice that optical qualities can be the most
> > important factor when deciding which digital
> camera to get.
>
> USB storage also requires SCSI to be enabled. This
> is important to know
> if you build your own kernels and use something
> somewhat old. (It was
> patched in the later kernels.)
>
> You can also get a pcmcia converter for whatever
> storage media you may
> have. They work just like a drive and requires no
> tweaks to the
> kernel. (Only works if you have pcmcia however...)
>
>
> --
> Alan <alan at clueserver.org>
>
>
>
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