I tried to be appropriate and follow my curiosity, but your patch.com servers seem to be offline. :{ --Jason V. C. On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:34:15 -0700 Michael Rasmussen <mikeraz at patch.com> wrote: -- Michael Rasmussen aka mikeraz Be appropriate && Follow your curiosity http://www.patch.com/ http://wiki.patch.com/ http://wiki.patch.com/index.php/BicycleCommuting