[PLUG] OT: Ordered List Problems

Wed May 7 17:44:02 UTC 2003

On Wed, 7 May 2003, Steve Bonds 1s7k8uhcd001-at-sneakemail.com |PDX Linux| wrote:

> Strange things can happen when browsers try to guess what you meant to
> say.  Malformed HTML somewhere else in the document could have caused
> a rendering error in the list, even if the list was fine.
> 
> What page was broken?  What does http://validator.w3.org/ say about
> the page?

I found the page (http://www.jonjacob.org/).  My guess is that this HTML
probably confused IE:

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<p><font size="+1" face="Helvetica">
   <b>My Positions in a nutshell:</b></p></font>
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The tag is opened after the , but is closed before . 
Many browsers get real confused by this "crossing" of HTML tags.

Also, the before <li> might be confusing IE. Put the inside the
<li> item.

Your best bet is to run this (and any other public-facing document)
through the w3.org validator.  It's a pain, but you can be reasonably
assured that if it doesn't render right, it's someone else's problem.  
;-)

Overall, your HTML looks very good.  Much better than the usual
export-from-MS-Word crap out there.  The attached HTML file should look
the same, and is squeaky-clean 4.01 Transitional HTML.

  -- Steve
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<html>
  <head>
    <LINK REL="SHORTCUT ICON" HREF="/favicon.ico">
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII">
      <title>Vote Jon Jacob for Portland School Board</title>
  </head>

  <body>
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    <table border="0" cellpadding="15" cellspacing="0">
      <tr bgcolor="33ccff">
	<td>
	  <a href="index.html"><img src="banner.gif" border="no" 
             alt="Jon Jacob for Portland School Board"></a>
	</td>
	<td>

	</td>
	<td>
	  <img src="vote.gif" alt="Vote May 20!">
	</td>
      </tr>
      <tr>
	<td width="65%">
	  <br>
	  <p>
	    <font size="+1" face="Helvetica">
	      <b>Why I am the better choice:</b>
	    </font>
	  </p>	  
	   <p>
	    <ul>
	      <li>Involved parent who sees first hand what goes on at the schools day-to-day</li>
	      <li>Not beholden to any one group, independent</li>
	      <li>Makes me the best choice to build coalitions and mend ties</li>
	      <li>Good listener who is open-minded and willing to turn good ideas into action</li>
	      <li>Energetic, not willing to walk away from the good fight</li>
	    </ul>
	  <p>
	    <font size="+1" face="Helvetica">
	      <b>My Positions in a nutshell:</b>
	    </font>
	  </p>

	    <ol>
	      <li><b>Stop Closing Schools</b>
	      <ul>
		<li>Closing schools only saves pennies</li>
		<li>Destroys neighborhoods</li>
		<li>Lowers property values</li>
		<li>Creates flight from Portland Public Schools</li>
		<li>Costs more money in the long run</li>
		<li>Shows lack of leadership and creative thinking</li>
	      </ul>
	      <li><b>Restore Financial Health</b>
	      <ul>
		<li>State needs to change formula for per-pupil funding</li>
		<li>Portland pays far more in taxes then we get back</li>
		<li>Restructure school administration to more efficient</li>
		<li>Better oversight on how we fire, hire, and offer benefits to districts top level executives</li>
		<li>More resources need to go to teachers and students</li>
		<li>We should be finding ways to restore programs, not cut them</li>
		<li>Need to study the possibility of discontinuing unfunded mandates and restoring local control</li>
	      </ul>
	      <li><b>Board Needs To Lead</b>
	      <ul>
		<li>Need to empower parents so they can be more involved</li>
		<li>Advocate a tax break to companies that give time off to parents who volunteer</li>
		<li>Find grants or funds for childcare</li>
		<li>Conduct regular training at each school for parents so they know how to get involved</li>
		<li>Parent involved will motivate teachers to move to schools that need their help</li>
	      </ul> 
	      <li><b>Board Should Advocate Strongly For The Schools</b>
		<ul>
		  <li>More than leadership, the Board should openly show Salem that it will not accept less than education first funding</li>
		  <li>Lead drives to take purse strings out of politicians hands</li>
		  <li>New funding scheme will guarantee school funds based on previous year plus cost of living increases and population adjustments</li>
		  <li>Board needs to empower all stakeholders, needs to be a coalition builder</li>
		  <li>It should bring all parties together to fight for schools as one voice</li>
		</ul>
		<li><b>I strongly support Measure 26-48</b>
		<ul>
		  <li>I agree that the tax is regressive, but without it, schools will be destroyed</li>
		  <li>If it passes, I will fight hard to make sure that we won't need it again in three years</li>
		</ul>
	      </ol>	  
	  <p>
	    For more specifics on the above positions and other issues, see the <a href="faq.html">FAQ</a> page or read my statement 
	      from the <a href="votersguide.html">voters guide</a>.
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	</td>
	<td width="30%" valign="top">
	  <br>
	  <img src="sitting.jpg" alt="Photo">
	  <p></p>
	  <a href="faq.html"><img src="faq.gif" border="no" alt="FAQ"></a>
	  <p></p>
	  <p></p>
	    <a href="about.html"><img src="more.gif" border="no" alt="more"></a>
	    <p></p>
	    <a href="endorsements.html"><img src="endorsements.gif" border="no" alt="endorsements"></a>
	    <p></p>
	    <a href="donate.html"><img src="donations.gif" border="no" alt="donate"></a>
	    <p></p>
	    <a href="volunteer.html"><img src="volunteer.gif" border="no" alt="volunteer"></a>
	    <p></p>
	    <a href="news.html"><img src="news.gif" border="no" alt="news"></a>
	    <p></p>
	    <a href="events.html"><img src="events.gif" border="no" alt="events"></a>
	    <p></p>
	    <a href="mailto:jon at manymoons.net"><img src="contact.gif" border="no" alt="contact me"></a>
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      </tr>
    </table>	    
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