Sluggish Mandrake WAS RE: [PLUG] Fedora change...

Sasha Romanosky sasha_romanosky at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 12 23:19:01 UTC 2003


And its advantages, if any, over gentoo?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-admin at lists.pdxlinux.org 
> [mailto:plug-admin at lists.pdxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Jason Van Cleve
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:06 PM
> To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
> Subject: Re: Sluggish Mandrake WAS RE: [PLUG] Fedora change...
> 
> 
> Thus spoke Sasha Romanosky, on Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:37:14 -0800:
> 
> > I've been curious about Gentoo. I know nothing about it, aside from 
> > its debian like package management. Do you know this well enough to 
> > elaborate on its benefits?
> 
> A few things to begin with, if I may.
> 
> 1. Nothing is installed automatically, except of course 
> dependencies of the packages you install; and (as you've 
> probably heard) everything is compiled, using your own 
> optimizations (defined globally in /etc/make.conf).  So you 
> get lean, speedy operation.
> 
> 2. Updates are cake.
> 
> 3. You can run pretty much any kernel you want, depending 
> upon whether you want stability, speed, cutting-edge, etc.  
> Below is my output from "emerge -s sources", which should 
> include all the kernels currently available through the 
> portage system.
> 
> --Jason
> 
> 
> [ Applications found : 40 ]
>  
> *  sys-kernel/aa-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22-r1
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 30,866 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources for Andrea Arcangeli's Linux kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/ac-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22-r4
>       Latest version installed: 2.4.22-r4
>       Size of downloaded files: 30,466 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources for Alan Cox's Linux kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/alpha-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.21-r1
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 29,522 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the Gentoo Linux Alpha kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/arm-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.19-r1
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 26,234 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.netwinder.org/ 
> http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/ http://www.kernel.org/ 
> http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the ARM/Linux kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/ck-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22-r2
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 29,637 kB
>       Homepage:    http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/
>       Description: Full sources for the Stock Linux kernel 
> Con Kolivas's high performance patchset
> 
> *  sys-kernel/compaq-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.9.32.7
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 2,491 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ 
> http://www.redhat.com/ 
> http://www.support.compaq.com/alpha-tools/redhat/
>       Description: Kernel from the Compaq Distribution of Red 
> Hat Linux (ALPHA).
> 
> *  sys-kernel/development-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.6.0_beta9
>       Latest version installed: 2.6.0_beta9
>       Size of downloaded files: 32,465 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the Development Branch of 
> the Linux kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/gaming-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.20-r3
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 28,532 kB
>       Homepage:    http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/
>       Description: Full sources for the Gentoo gaming-optimized kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/gentoo-dev-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.6.0_beta9
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 32,465 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the development branch of 
> the Linux kernel (2.6)
> 
> *  sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.20-r8
>       Latest version installed: 2.4.20-r8
>       Size of downloaded files: 30,816 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.gentoo.org/ http://www.kernel.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the Gentoo Kernel.
> 
> *  sys-kernel/gentoo-test-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 30,928 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.gentoo.org/ http://www.kernel.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the Gentoo Kernel.
> 
> *  sys-kernel/grsec-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22.1.9.12
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 30,532 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.grsecurity.net
>       Description: Vanilla sources of the linux kernel with 
> the grsecurity 1.9.12 patch
> 
> *  sys-kernel/gs-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.23_pre8
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 32,413 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: This kernel stays up to date with current 
> kernel -pres, with recent acpi,evms,win3lin ,futexes,aic79xx, 
> superfreeswan,preempt/ll, and various hw fixes.
> 
> *  sys-kernel/hardened-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 31,368 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ 
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/hardened/
>       Description: Special Security Hardened Gentoo Linux Kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/hppa-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22_p13
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 29,542 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ 
> http://www.gentoo.org/ http://parisc-linux.org
>       Description: Full sources for the Linux kernel with 
> patch for hppa
> 
> *  sys-kernel/hppa-sources-dev [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.21_p10
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 28,995 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ 
> http://www.gentoo.org/ http://parisc-linux.org
>       Description: Full sources for the Linux kernel with 
> patch for hppa
> 
> *  sys-kernel/ia64-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 29,390 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.gentoo.org/ http://www.kernel.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the Gentoo Kernel.
> 
> *  sys-kernel/mips-prepatch-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22_rc2-r1
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 33,054 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org http://www.linux-mips.org/
>       Description: Linux-Mips CVS pre-patch sources for 
> MIPS-based machines
> 
> *  sys-kernel/mips-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22-r3
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 29,070 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.linux-mips.org/
>       Description: Linux-Mips CVS sources for MIPS-based 
> machines, dated 20031015
> 
> *  sys-kernel/mm-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.6.0_beta9-r2
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 32,778 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the development linux 
> kernel with Andrew Morton's patchset
> 
> *  sys-kernel/mosix-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.20
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 27,008 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ 
> http://www.gentoo.org/ http://www.mosix.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the Gentoo Mosix Linux kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/openmosix-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 29,083 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ 
> http://www.gentoo.org/ http://www.openmosix.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the Gentoo openMosix Linux kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/pfeifer-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.20.1_pre11
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 30,823 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.gentoo.org/ http://www.kernel.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the experimental Gentoo 
> Kernel. Patches from here may move into sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
> 
> *  sys-kernel/planet-ccrma-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.21-r1
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 26,931 kB
>       Homepage:    http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/ 
> http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.redhat.com/
>       Description: Kernel source used in Planet CCRMA custom 
> audio upgrade (based on RedHat)
> 
> *  sys-kernel/ppc-development-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.6.0_beta9-r3
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 32,775 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the development linux 
> kernel 2.6 with benh's patchset
> 
> *  sys-kernel/ppc-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22-r2
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files:  [no/bad digest]
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/benh/
>       Description: PowerPC kernel tree based on benh's 
> patches, -r corresponds to ben{r} versioning
> 
> *  sys-kernel/ppc-sources-benh [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22-r2
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 28,965 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/benh/
>       Description: PowerPC kernel tree based on benh's 
> patches, -r corresponds to ben{r} versioning
> 
> *  sys-kernel/ppc-sources-crypto [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.20
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 26,980 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ 
> http://www.kerneli.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full cryptoapi enabled sources for the 
> Gentoo Linux PPC kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/ppc-sources-dev [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 30,170 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full developmental sources for the Gentoo 
> Linux PPC kernel - Experimental!
> 
> *  sys-kernel/redhat-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.20.2.48-r1
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 37,771 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.redhat.com/
>       Description: Kernel source tree used in Red Hat 
> distributions (not supported by Red Hat)
> 
> *  sys-kernel/rsbac-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.20
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 27,237 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.rsbac.org
>       Description: Rule Set Based Access Control (RSBAC) Kernel Patch
> 
> *  sys-kernel/selinux-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.21-r4
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 28,082 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.nsa.gov/selinux
>       Description: LSM patched kernel with SELinux
> 
> *  sys-kernel/sparc-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 28,969 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the Gentoo Sparc Linux kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/usermode-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 29,016 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ 
> http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net
>       Description: 
> Full (vanilla) sources for the User Mode Linux kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/vanilla-prepatch-sources [ Masked ]
>       Latest version available: 2.4.23_pre9
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 30,967 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the prerelease vanilla 
> Linux kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/vanilla-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.22
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 28,836 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the Linux kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/win4lin-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.20-r1
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 26,977 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the linux kernel with 
> win4lin support
> 
> *  sys-kernel/wolk-sources
>       Latest version available: 4.9
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 37,713 kB
>       Homepage:    http://wolk.sourceforge.net http://www.kernel.org
>       Description: Working Overloaded Linux Kernel
> 
> *  sys-kernel/xfs-sources
>       Latest version available: 2.4.20-r3
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 30,004 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.kernel.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/
>       Description: Full sources for the XFS Specialized 
> Gentoo Linux kernel
> 
> _______________________________________________
> PLUG mailing list
> PLUG at lists.pdxlinux.org 
> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plu> g
> 






More information about the PLUG mailing list