[PLUG] No to moderation

Michael C. Robinson michael at robinson-west.com
Sat Nov 29 13:47:02 UTC 2003


On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 10:16, Eric Harrison wrote:
> On 29 Nov 2003, Michael C. Robinson wrote:
> 
> >Because people are told to moderate themselves, it makes sense 
> >to debate whether or not moderation should happen to the list 
> >itself.
> 
> PLUG is a loose-nit group that has a wide degree of variance in
> experience, opinions, and expectations. The only way we are all
> going to get along is to accept these differences. We've managed
> to get along with each other, more or less, for the last 10 years.
> 
> 
> Moderating the list so that it aligns with a particular set of
> members' views, morals, political leanings, emacs vs vi, etc, is
> a bad deal. 
> 
> I disagree with a number of the people who post on PLUG. But
> that is part of what keeps PLUG interesting to me. If everyone
> here was exactly like me, I would quickly get bored and leave.
> 
> 
> The alternative is that we self moderate. Occasionally someone
> will step out of line, that is the price we pay to keep this
> an open forum. Freedom always comes at a price.
> 
> If PLUG is too free-wheeling, or you can't tolerate the opinions
> of some of the posters, there is always the freedom to vote
> with your feet. There are a million other Linux/open source/free
> software forums.
> 
> 
> -Eric

Why do you favor leaving as the solution?  I think Jeme is politically
motivated in a way that produces a great deal of abuse to the list.
I'm motivated to balance what he puts on the list because I know
many people for whatever reason can't filter.  I'm concerned 
about most of what he is pushing.  I've taken some time to try 
and go head to head with him on plug-talk, I consider him a very
dangerous man.  I'm not hard headed complaining about Jeme's pervert
post, there's another view that has been suppressed for far too long. 
I'm not interested in being in Jeme's world where a married woman calls
herself a pervert just to amuse him.  He says here on plug that she is
not demeaning herself, yet he falls short of offering an interpretation
she'd attribute to the word that satisfies that statement.  Instead, it
sounds like he wants to have an affair with her.

Leaving is a larger issue.  Oregon is my home of twenty two and a half
years where by removing my influence, however ineffective it may be, 
I see things degrading faster.  There's a lot to leave here.  If I 
stay with Linux and try to be a programmer in this area, this is a 
major list for the region focused on my core area of interest.  

I'm not crazy, there are enough bridges in Portland I could have 
jumped off of one a long time ago if I was.  Unfortunately, the
great and noble plug list would probably celebrate if I did even
though it's the stupidest thing I could ever consider doing.

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Michael C. Robinson

Associates of General Studies 
PCC March 2003.
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