Since I'm up to my eyeballs at the moment and haven't had time to setup the NNTP interface, I requested subscription of the list to Gmane. It should appear shortly in http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.portland Wil -- Wil Cooley <wcooley at nakedape.cc> Naked Ape Consulting, Ltd. <http://naked-ape.com>