[PLUG] Re: FOSS Cal and Sched -- Re: Governor backs plan to aid open source movment

[Pete Lancashire]

I think you hit the proverbial nail on the head.

We, the FOSS community have basically reached critical mass with
technical talent. But what I believe is missing is organization
talent. What I think would be great is a group that is skilled
at getting support i.e. $'s. And that same group or another that
is skilled at not only formulating a team, but keeping that team
together.

If there was such a shop, where I could get paid a decent wage,
health bennies, and an annual Tri-Met ticket :), I would jump
at the opportunity. [Wait, I don't want to be a programmer again,
but they would need a sys admin :) ]

I keep reading about places like software job shops, but
they all seem to be closed project centric.

I would think something like such a organization would work much
better then something owned by one of the biggies.

OSDL is an example for the technical side, but what is needed
is a business side.

It would be a good PSU Business School project to do a business case
class on starting such a company and getting it funded. Hmmm only
if I could afford right now to goto PSU ..

-pete

On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 18:49, Mark Allyn wrote:
> I agree that re-invetion of what is already out there would be a waste.
> 
> Would it be within the scope of the new Beaverton center to try to bring
> these projects together?
> 
> I can see something in the line of a full evaluation of what is already
> there and the possibly creating any necessary 'glues' to put these
> together to form something that is easily plug/play and yet robust.
> 
> I am curious, I see that there is some sentiment that LDAP on the back
> end may not be suitable.
> 
> What would be a suitable back end storage of calendar and adressbook
> type data?
> 
> I though that LDAP would be ideal as it can be used for authentication
> as well.
> 
> Would a better solution be a relational database such as postgres/my/sql
> for the data and ldap/kerberos for authentication?
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Wil Cooley wrote:
> 
> > On 2005-01-27, Pete Lancashire <nix at petelancashire.com> wrote:
> > > How about meeting 1/2 way.
> > >
> > > What is Novel/Evolution and Mozilla/Thunderbird up to ?
> > >
> > > Can a cal./sched. package be added to their packages ?
> > >
> > > Can the skills and talent of those creating other time
> > > based packages be used such as project tools.
> > >
> > > Just thinking why reinvent what is out there ?
> > >
> > > How about first doing a survey of what is out there, and
> > > then contacting all the players and then seeing if there
> > > is a chance to create something locally ?
> >
> > This is all already in progress.  On the server side, there are at least
> > two projects with reasonably mature codebases:
> >     o OpenGroupware.org[1]
> >     o Open-Xchange[2] (*not* owned by SuSE/Novell; Netline actually owns
> >         it--SuSE just integrated it and sold it with their distro)
> >
> > Both provide all the stuff you'd expect--calendar, schedule, lots of
> > other stuff.
> >
> > There are also a few proprietary servers, such as Novell Groupwise[3] and
> > Samsung Contact[4] (formerly HP OpenMail).  Both run on Linux.
> >
> > On the client side, Mozilla Sunbird[5] and Novell/Ximian Evolution are
> > developing to either support ical over WebDAV or more native interfaces for
> > the servers.  OpenOffice.org has a groupware project, part of which is called
> > Glow[6]; I don't know how much activity is has now; it's also Java-based.
> >
> > There are other solutions, too, like the Kolab[7] server and the Bynari[8]
> > Insight Connector.  Both seem to be oriented towards storing information on
> > an IMAP server, which doesn't seem to be a good way to go IMO.  Also, Bynari
> > is an Outlook plugin for using a Linux srever--it doesn't help Linux desktops.
> > Kollab seems mainly oriented towards KDE (as you might guess).
> >
> > 1. http://www.opengroupware.org (in case you couldn't guess)
> > 2. http://mirror.open-xchange.org/ox/EN/community/
> > 3. http://www.novell.com/products/groupwise/index.html
> > 4. http://www.samsungcontact.com/en/
> > 5. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/
> > 6. http://groupware.openoffice.org/glow/
> > 7. http://kolab.org/
> > 8. http://www.bynari.net/
> >
> > There is still a lot of work to be done, but it's getting there.
> >
> > Wil
> > --
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