[PLUG] Why is java is evil ???? (was "new guy with questions" )

[Bill Ensley]

Again, Don't get me wrong.

I am not "Feverish" about Java, I enjoy it though.

Now, when I say "re-use" code, I am not thinking about
Taking code from one project and reusing it in another.

I actually have an advanced DOM that represents my documents
That I re-use over multiple JVM's, Servers and OS's.

Java simply provides me the cross-platform versatility
To do this.

-Bill Ensley
Bear Printing 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-bounces at lists.pdxlinux.org 
> [mailto:plug-bounces at lists.pdxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Lancashire, Pete
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 8:54 AM
> To: 'General Linux/UNIX discussion and help; civil and on-topic'
> Subject: RE: [PLUG] Why is java is evil ???? (was "new guy 
> with questions" )
> 
> a few more cents of thought ..
> 
>   i don't really have any grips about java, never done
>   much in it, the grip is more with the religious fever
>   that promoted it not only on technical merits, but
>   from the suits, brings back memories of PL/1, or Ada.
>   then add the (in my opinion) the myth of code reuse.
>   I wrote a string parser in C about 20 yrs ago, I
>   cut/pasted 80% of it last winter, is that any less
>   reusable ?
> 
>   and don't get me going on those drag and drop
>   code/program generators. "You CIO don't have to
>   hire expensive programmers, your secretary can
>   be a enterprise programmer" ..
> 
>   over my 0.5 century, i have become very skeptical
>   with anything that gets a cult following. i was
>   thinking of going back to college and finally get
>   my CS degree, so i sat in on some 3xx class,
>   and unless it was 'you the programmer should not
>   be concerned with the demands your work places
>   on the hardware, that is someone else's problem',
>   and in the same class later in the week, 'java
>   is the only truth ..'
> 
>   oh well .. i guess just being an old fart
> 
>   -pete
> 
>   PS 256K !! I would have killed for 256K on some
>   projects, and not long ago.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rogan Creswick [mailto:creswick at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:59 PM
> > To: General Linux/UNIX discussion and help, civil and on-topic
> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] Why is java is evil ???? (was "new guy with 
> > questions" )
> > 
> > 
> > On 6/27/06, Ronald Chmara <ron at opus1.com> wrote:
> > > like this, quite sadly. Maybe because the emphasis is on
> > thinking about
> > > OO ideals (polymorphism, code maintenance), and not 
> things endusers 
> > > care about (speed, minimal footprints),
> > 
> > Yeah! It's a Good Thing users don't care about maintenance...
> > 
> > In the end, I agree with most of what you said, but someone had to 
> > bite...
> > 
> > --Rogan, who is bitter about all programming languages right now...
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