[PLUG] browser dinosaur cries for help!

Carlos Konstanski ckonstanski at pippiandcarlos.com
Wed Dec 3 16:38:54 UTC 2008


On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Russell Senior wrote:

> Date: 03 Dec 2008 06:54:40 -0800
> From: Russell Senior <seniorr at aracnet.com>
> Reply-To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help;	civil and on-topic"
>     <plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
> To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
> Subject: [PLUG] browser dinosaur cries for help!
> 
>
> I am a habitual user of Mozilla's original product, what is now called
> SeaMonkey.  It is packaged by Debian as something (for trademark
> reasons) called IceApe.  It is the old browser/email/composer/
> chatzilla application suite, although for all practical purposes I am
> only using the browser component.  I use it because it always worked,
> and because everytime I tried Firefox I discovered that Firefox (at
> least in its base configuration) lacked the features I had come to
> expect, and was unable to easily discover how to replicate them by
> using the myriad plugins.  For a long while now (gee, Firefox was
> first released in 2002, so like 6 years) I've been able to blithely
> carry on about my business.  However, increasingly websites are
> breaking on SeaMonkey, while operating on Firefox.  Convincing people
> to fix their websites for my increasingly fossilized browser may prove
> unfruitful, and anyway, untimely.
>
> So in order to join the 21st century, I am looking for help in
> replicating what I see as the useful features of SeaMonkey in modern
> Firefox, presumably by finding suitable plugins adrift amongst the sea
> of those available.  The Useful Features(tm) are all found in the
> SeaMonkey Tools menu:
>
>  Cookie Manager
>    Block cookies from this site
>    Use default cookie permissions
>    Allow session cookies from this site
>    Allow cookies from this site
>    Manage stored cookies
>  Image Manager
>    Block images from this site
>    Use default permissions
>    Allow images from this site
>    Manage image permissions
>  Popup Manager
>    Allow popups from this site
>    Manage popups
>  Password Manager
>    Logout
>    Manage passwords
>
> I kinda want all of those conveniently available, not too many clicks
> away.  Suggestions?
>
>
> -- 
> Russell Senior         ``I have nine fingers; you have ten.''
> seniorr at aracnet.com

I don't think seamonkey is so very far out of date.  This whole
browser incompatibility thing has gotten out of hand.  Perhaps the
real answer is to go after these makers of incompatible websites.  But
the internet is a social experiment, which means anything goes.

I for one plan on phasing out HTML in favor of flash.  Not that I am
in love with Adobe, but I am tired of HTML, and HTML is just plain
tired.  Now that we have flex, there's a lot a linux guy can do
without ever opening a flash IDE.  If I weren't in cahoots with a
flash guru, I'd be looking for another plugin, perhaps java.  The open
source world needs a browser plugin for delivering rich media!  I
dream of one that is a lisp image, with lisp code streaming between
server and client.

I know that this has little to do with your post, and in particular
your feature set.  Sorry.

Carlos



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