[PLUG] Received Mail difficult to forward

Bruce KIlpatrick bakilpatrick at verizon.net
Wed Sep 24 01:35:58 UTC 2008


Denis Heidtmann wrote:
> Bruce KIlpatrick wrote:
>   
>> Denis Heidtmann wrote:
>>     
>>> Keith Lofstrom wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:55:34AM -0700, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> I have received a few emails which contain text and pictures. These have 
>>>>> come forwarded to me from a couple of different people.  When I try to 
>>>>> forward the email the pictures are missing ...
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> ...
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Can anybody tell me what is happening?  Is there a way for me to change the 
>>>>> way TB handles these so that I can forward them without having to painfully 
>>>>> reconstruct them by saving each image separately and attaching the saved 
>>>>> images?
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> I don't know what it is called in Thunderbird, but with the text-
>>>> based Mutt mailer this is called a "bounce" instead of the normal
>>>> "forward".  Bounce sends a duplicate of the message, attachments
>>>> and all, to the email address specified in the bounce command.
>>>> Hopefully, TB has something similar, and perhaps the name will
>>>> help you find it.
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> I find "bounce e-mail" or "bounce mail" to mean returning to the sender:
>>> DEFINITION - Bounce e-mail (sometimes referred to as bounce mail) is electronic 
>>> mail that is returned to the sender because it cannot be delivered for some reason.
>>> Except: Some products and users use the term bounce to mean "forward a received 
>>> note to someone else."
>>>
>>> That in fact is what I tried to do.  Usually, I can forward a message having 
>>> attachments, and the attachments appear in the copy.  Same with "edit as new": 
>>> the attachments are attached to the copy which I am editing.
>>>
>>> However, TB shows the troublesome mail as having no attachments.
>>>
>>> Investigating more, I saved the email as a file (A file menu option in TB).  I 
>>> then opened the resulting saved file using Kmail.  It shows it as an HTML 
>>> message having 24 attachments (the images).  It lists various message part types 
>>> as multipart/alternative, Plain Text Document, multipart/related, HTML Document, 
>>> and JPEG Images. (I have never used Kmail before. but it tells me much more 
>>> about this message than TB does.)
>>>
>>> It seems at this point that this is a TB issue with this type of message. My 
>>> guess at present is that the problem is that it is an HTML message.  I searched 
>>> a little for another HTML message, but the one I found did not have attachments, 
>>> so I cannot determine if all HTML messages suffer the same fate.  Time to Google 
>>> some, now that I have a suspicion of what to look for.
>>>
>>> -Denis
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>>>       
>> Denis,
>>
>> Please post the results of your research.  I am having the same problem 
>> with TB 2.0.
>>
>> The only way I have found around the situation is to save the email as a 
>> file to my desktop and attach it to a new message, then delete the saved 
>> file...should be an easier method in such a popular email client.
>>
>> Bruce
>> _______________________________________________
>>     
>
> My searching turned up little--mostly dated information.  One entry I found 
> said, in effect, do not use HTML email.
>
> One thing I did which worked was to change to forward mail as an attachment 
> rather than in-line (edit/preferences/composition). I sent the mail to myself, 
> and the attachment opened with the pictures visible.  Not a convenient solution 
> either, but perhaps better than saving and attaching.
>
> Should this be reported as a bug?
>
> -Denis
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>   
Thanks Denis,

I did the same and will see how it works in the following days.

Bruce



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