[PLUG] libpthread-stubs and X seems to be changing...

drew wymore drew.wymore at gmail.com
Wed Apr 29 07:42:24 UTC 2009


On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Michael Robinson <plug_1 at robinson-west.com
> wrote:

>
> On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 21:39 -0700, drew wymore wrote:
> > I'd try and find source rpms instead of doing it the way you are
> > trying because then you screw with package tracking and dependencies
> > which is never good.
>
> Hmm, that's why I set the prefix to /opt2 so I'm not installing over
> anything preexisting.
>
> I've tried openredalert, it isn't playable.  I'm not sure why that
> is.  Events that are supposed to trigger don't.  You are supposed
> to have Tanya, you never get her.  Einstein is supposed to show up,
> he never does.  There is junk on the left side of the screen in the
> objectives area.  Overall, the first scenario is impossible to win.
> I got further with openredalert compiling it from source, but it's
> no better than freera and freecnc which strangely enough aren't
> developed anymore.
>
> I am at a loss as to what it takes to update Mesa for crossover
> linux so that this game will work correctly.  I am worried that
> things will break.
>
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The problem with compiling to /opt2 is that X is going to be looking for the
shared objects and other library foo that is built with these packages that
it's not going to work any better. What you end up with is removing the
packages you're building for and creating symlinks from /opt2/$foo to where
X expects the libraries to actually live. So you really don't gain much
IMHO. Others might disagree and I'm willing to listen to the arguments.

I hate to be the one to say this. I think you need to look at a different
distro for your gaming needs. I believe you mentioned dropping in a second
disk and installing another distro which keeps more up to date with X
updates and things of that nature.

You've stated a few times that you think Fedora is too unstable. Have you
had any experiences that lead you to that belief? I have had really good
experiences with the last few releases and some of the graphics foo if not
updated through the normal channels can be found in 3rd party repo's like
Livna. They also offer custom "spins" geared towards certain niches, one of
them including gaming IIRC. So it might be worth the time and bandwidth to
actually give it a try.

I'm a Slackware user, however if you're used to clicky pointy drag n' drop
then it's not really gonna work for you. Also unless it's a security update
you're not going to find a lot of updates to things like Mesa unless you run
up with the -current branch which may and has broken things in the past.
There is a distro based on Slackware that is quite a bit more friendly
called Zenwalk which might fit your needs though.

Also there is always ^buntu's ... which I'm sure you can find plenty of
support for on this list as I get the perception that most of the folks on
list use some derivative.

The name escapes me at the moment but there is a blob of software out there
that makes gaming much easier on Linux with some custom packages and such
and has pretty wide distro support. It's a pay for deal but it's rather
cheap if I recall correctly. I used it back in 2003 when I was playing
Counter Strike =) Might be a better alternative to getting Crossover
Office/Linux to force these games to try and work. I'll see if I can dig up
the name of the software and I'll post back when I get a chance.

Cheers,
Drew-



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