[PLUG] PLUG Digest, Vol 67, Issue 17

[Michael Convey]

I agree with most of what Michael Robinson says. Barry, in many cases, I
think it is the exact opposite of what you say. Porn filtering sites are
there to prevent porn merchants from imposing their morals on those who are
trying to avoid it. I can say from experience that it is highly addictive
and that it does negatively impact committed relationships.

Mike


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> From: "Michael C. Robinson" <plug_1 at robinson-west.com>
> To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help; civil and on-topic" <
> plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:32:35 -0700
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] XXX?
> On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 14:40 -0700, Bill Barry wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:13 PM,  <dfhubbard at freegeek.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I'm on the Free Geek Grant group.  One group wants to be able to stop
> the
> > > access to porn on their grant computers.  Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Debra
> > >
> >
> > I would consider not donating to Free Geek if they are going to use my
> > donations to impose their morals on other people.
> >
> > Bill Barry
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> Are you saying Barry that the sexual exploitation of: men, women, and
> children to make money is acceptable?  I for one run Dansguardian, but
> in realistic terms it makes more sense to have your Internet Service
> Provider do the filtering as any locally installed program is going to
> be easily bypassed.  Getting addicted to XXX is not a good thing where
> any group that wants to limit access to this sort of material certainly
> has my support.  Are you willing Barry to replace sex with Internet
> porn?  Porn is a poor substitute for real sex between a life long
> committed man and a life long committed woman in private.  How do you
> feel Barry about people who are supposed to abstain from sex when it
> comes to porn?  That includes religious people and anyone who is single.
> I wonder what values you honestly have Barry if you think there is
> nothing negative about porn?  Studies show that pornography negatively
> affects married couples too.
>
> XXX is just one thing I would welcome ISP level filtering for.  Online
> gambling also bothers me, ebay being an exception.  It should be obvious
> that material on the web that could fuel sexual harassment lawsuits
> and/or unduly impact productivity is going to raise legitimate concerns.
>
> Why aren't web sites rated the way movies are?  Surely, ISPs can offer
> filtering based on third party ratings of web sites?  One isn't talking
> about censorship if ISP level filtering is a voluntary low cost service
> and employers should have a right to impose certain browsing
> restrictions on employees.
>
> What right do you have Barry to impose your porn is a good thing
> attitude on everyone else?
>
> I find it sad that a woman points out a problem and no man yet has stood
> up to support her.
>
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