[PLUG] Use of free DNS services

William A Morita wamorita at hevanet.com
Sun May 2 23:53:18 UTC 2010


A Tor may not supply the the annomy that you seek.
Bittorrent over Tor isn't a good idea
http://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea

- Bill Morita
wamorita At hevanet.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-bounces at lists.pdxlinux.org
> [mailto:plug-bounces at lists.pdxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> C. Robinson
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 3:28 PM
> To: General Linux/UNIX discussion and help;civil and on-topic
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Use of free DNS services
>
> > and michael, forgive me if i'm wrong, but isn't tor more oriented
> > toward obscuring activity than any of the above services? all i
> > remember about tor from the brief period i had used it was that it
> > bogged down the internet speed abysmally.
> >
> > - nathan
>
> The whole point of Tor is to allow people to use the Net
> without being traceable to their point of origin.  By
> default, openDns blocks accessing sites about Tor and other
> web anonymizers as filtering and anonymizing tend to be
> counter productive activities.  In order to effectively
> filter via openDns, your source has to be identified.  For
> users of Tor, the source isn't identifiable.  That is the
> point of Tor if it actually works.
>
> The number one customer for openDns I would say is the
> concerned parent or business.  The number one customer for
> Tor, the "Adult" entertainment industry.  This is not to say
> that Tor doesn't have legitimate uses such as covering the
> identity of human rights workers and concealing the identity
> of people in China trying to get past state censors who
> arguably aren't always right.
>
> I frankly question whether Tor should be allowed without any
> back doors and without the volunteer anonymizing relays
> behind it taking at least some responsibility for the content
> going through their relays.  Granted, their is an argument
> for not having a back door.
> Thing is, the bad guys will use Tor.  So what if bot nets are
> a better way to get your message or SPAM out anonymously?
>
> The major concern with Tor and other anonymizers is that
> people who are nuisances on the Net and people who are
> addicted to certain things on the net will probably be the
> first, not the last people to use it.
> OpenDns is one of the few services I know about where the
> person addicted to XYZ on the Net can have it filtered out
> without losing much.
> Dansguardian and ProCon Latte are poor alternatives that
> block too much legitimate activity and they are fairly
> trivial to bypass.
>
> I brought up Tor as a possible con to using openDns in some
> situations as Tor effectively defeats openDns.  Tor will
> defeat any third party filter like openDns.  Tor is something
> I want to research from the ethics standpoint as the issues
> concerning Tor are not black and white, there is a lot of
> controversy.  The use of geolocation by some communities for
> example to implement standards for web content is easily
> defeated by Tor.
>
> People argue that the purpose of Tor is to protect free
> speech, but I am cynical about protecting anonymous free
> speech and offering people anonymous web surfing.  What about
> the right not to listen to or read something coming to you
> over the Net?  SPAM is a common abuse of that right.
>
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