[PLUG] Algorithm's and Compilers PSU...

Denis Heidtmann denis.heidtmann at gmail.com
Tue Mar 29 16:26:04 UTC 2011


Can anybody here force this off?

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Michael C. Robinson <
plug_1 at robinson-west.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 20:02 -0700, Russell Johnson wrote:
> > You are not writing about computer science Michael. You are writing about
> a teachers, and your inability to learn. That is not the topic of this list.
> >
> > Russell Johnson
> > russ at dimstar.net
>
> You are not the plug community Russell and I never said that Mark Jones
> can't teach.  Nobody is incapable of learning where not everyone can
> learn about computer science in general and Linux specifically the same
> way.  Mark Jones in my opinion teaches in a way that demands a different
> background than the average person who grows up in Oregon is likely to
> have.  If it is hard to learn from Mark Jones because K-12 education
> stinks in Oregon, that's not Mark Jones fault.  Stop being a bully
> Russell, what does it give you quite frankly?
>
> I hate plug-talk, I hate reading that Obama needs a new pair of shoes
> when I voted against him.  I also hate that people will get into
> atheistic rants on there among other things.  That this community
> maintains the plug-talk list at all is in my opinion a sad state of
> affairs.
>
> Now it is widely known that Mark Jones is a computer science teacher.
> I am writing about computer science if I talk about him, that is
> understood, and that is indeed germane to this list.  Is plug for the
> discussion of Linux/Unix specifically and in more general terms
> computer science, or not?
>
> If tomorrow there are no new computer scientists and the ones that
> currently exist die off sooner than later, Linux will be severely
> impacted.  Helping someone get through computer science and become
> competent, especially someone who wants to work on Linux systems, is in
> the long term interest of this community.  Linux would not exist at all
> if Linus hadn't received help from others over the Internet.  Imagine
> Linux coming to fruition if it had been Linus's private project
> developed without the benefit of the GNU tools and without the Internet.
> There would be no Linux as we know it in that kind of an environment.
> I'm sure Linus is intelligent and quite skilled, but look at OS projects
> like Syllable, ReactOS, and especially Visopsys which need more help.
> ReactOS, 12+ years old, is not stable.  Linux is what, 21 years old?
> Hasn't Linux been usable since 1993?  The difference between Linux and
> ReactOS or Linux and Visopsys is that Linux became usable quickly.
> Point is, that wouldn't have happened if Linux had been Linus's pet
> project or private hobby.  Linus had to learn a lot to cobble together
> the first stable Linux kernel.
>
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