[PLUG] Reality Check

Wed Jul 25 03:43:48 UTC 2012

I've done it with Sidux, a distro based on Debian Sid. The installer
detects there's no Ethernet connection, the active wireless radio and
prompts to install the correct wireless driver. So perhaps Debian stable
doesn't have this feature and you don't have a wireless driver installed
and working?
On Jul 24, 2012 6:26 PM, <plug-request at lists.pdxlinux.org> wrote:

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>    1. Re: August General meeting still TBD (Michael Dexter)
>    2. Re: PLUG Logo original? (Michael Dexter)
>    3. "Debian netinst.iso"  vs  "Wifi hot spot" (Richard Owlett)
>    4. Re: "Debian netinst.iso" vs "Wifi hot spot" (Paul Heinlein)
>    5. Re: "Debian netinst.iso" vs "Wifi hot spot" (chris (fool) mccraw)
>    6. REALITY CHECK - was [Re: "Debian netinst.iso" vs "Wifi hot
>       spot"] (Richard Owlett)
>    7. Re: REALITY CHECK - was [Re: "Debian netinst.iso" vs "Wifi
>       hot spot"] (Nathan Williams)
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:00:41 -0700
> From: Michael Dexter <dexter at ambidexter.com>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] August General meeting still TBD
> To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org, aaron at bavariati.org
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> On 7/24/12 7:22 AM, Aaron Burt wrote:
> > Yay!  Hopefully not too offtopic for PLUG, but does anyone know where the
> > "Hack is not a four letter word" shirts came from?  I'd love to give one
> to
> > an ex-photojournalist I know.  (Or maybe to my buddy with the sidecar
> rig.)
>
> Those were the official OSCON shirts for attendees. I believe I have one
> or two I can bring.
>
> Michael
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:01:14 -0700
> From: Michael Dexter <dexter at ambidexter.com>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] PLUG Logo original?
> To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
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> On 7/24/12 8:36 AM, Paul Heinlein wrote:
> >> http://pdxlinux.org/portland-linux-unix-group.jpg
> >
> > I like it! A mug of coffee in the left hand might be appropriate. :-)
>
> Not to mention hipster glasses? :)
>
> Michael
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:26:11 -0500
> From: Richard Owlett <rowlett at cloud85.net>
> Subject: [PLUG] "Debian netinst.iso"  vs  "Wifi hot spot"
> To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
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> Anyone successfully installed Debian using netinst.iso when
> *ONLY* available internet connection was via a public Wifi
> hot spot?
>
> My success rate is "Absolute Zero" :<
>
> Ideas? Suitable incantations?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:33:43 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Paul Heinlein <heinlein at madboa.com>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] "Debian netinst.iso" vs "Wifi hot spot"
> To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help;    civil and on-topic"
>         <plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
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> On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
> > Anyone successfully installed Debian using netinst.iso when *ONLY*
> > available internet connection was via a public Wifi hot spot?
> >
> > My success rate is "Absolute Zero" :<
> >
> > Ideas? Suitable incantations?
>
> Many, perhaps most, public wifi networks require some sort of
> click-through agreement to the local terms of service. Once the
> agreement is accepted, your route to the Internet becomes live.
>
> The Debian installer (well, every Linux installer) doesn't allow you
> to accomplish that step before heading out to the network.
>
> That's my best guess as to what's happening.
>
> You might have luck in a smaller, self-managed venue like a
> neighborhood coffee shop, but it's going to be a hit-or-miss
> proposition.
>
> --
> Paul Heinlein
> heinlein at madboa.com
> 45?38' N, 122?6' W
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:48:49 -0700
> From: "chris (fool) mccraw" <gently at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] "Debian netinst.iso" vs "Wifi hot spot"
> To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help,    civil and on-topic"
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> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Paul Heinlein <heinlein at madboa.com>
> wrote:
>
> > That's my best guess as to what's happening.
>
> seconded.
>
> > You might have luck in a smaller, self-managed venue like a neighborhood
> > coffee shop, but it's going to be a hit-or-miss proposition.
>
> Or, run a live distro and accept the clickthru and then reboot into
> the installer.
>
> But IMNSHO it's kind of a dick move to install at a coffee shop
> (unless it's one that you own), since you will eat up all of the
> available bandwidth at a business that is trying to serve multiple
> people.
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:17:11 -0500
> From: Richard Owlett <rowlett at cloud85.net>
> Subject: [PLUG] REALITY CHECK - was [Re: "Debian netinst.iso" vs "Wifi
>         hot spot"]
> To: plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
> Message-ID: <500F4917.9050400 at cloud85.net>
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> chris (fool) mccraw wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Paul Heinlein<heinlein at madboa.com>
>  wrote:
> >
> >> That's my best guess as to what's happening.
> >
> > seconded.
> >
> >> You might have luck in a smaller, self-managed venue like a neighborhood
> >> coffee shop, but it's going to be a hit-or-miss proposition.
> >
> > Or, run a live distro and accept the clickthru and then reboot into
> > the installer.
> >
> > But IMNSHO it's kind of a dick move to install at a coffee shop
> > (unless it's one that you own), since you will eat up all of the
> > available bandwidth at a business that is trying to serve multiple
> > people.
>
> Sorry folks ;/
>
> My questions WAS:
> "Anyone successfully installed Debian using netinst.iso when
> *ONLY* available internet connection was via a public Wifi
> hot spot?"
>
> Please don't GUESS at possible problems when I asked if
> anyone has *EVER* succeeded?
>
> BTW
> 1. Location is a public library
> 2. I've routinely connected using Debian, Ubuntu and EVEN
> Windows(tm) - never having been asked to agree to any terms. LOL
>
> Being in a distant suburb (~2000 miles SE) , AKA "Show Me
> State" ;)
> "And the answer is ??? ??????"
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 18:25:38 -0700
> From: Nathan Williams <nathan at nathanewilliams.com>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] REALITY CHECK - was [Re: "Debian netinst.iso" vs
>         "Wifi hot spot"]
> To: civil and on-topic <plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
> Message-ID: <500F4B12.4030305 at nathanewilliams.com>
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> On 07/24/2012 06:17 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > chris (fool) mccraw wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Paul Heinlein<heinlein at madboa.com>
>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> That's my best guess as to what's happening.
> >> seconded.
> >>
> >>> You might have luck in a smaller, self-managed venue like a
> neighborhood
> >>> coffee shop, but it's going to be a hit-or-miss proposition.
> >> Or, run a live distro and accept the clickthru and then reboot into
> >> the installer.
> >>
> >> But IMNSHO it's kind of a dick move to install at a coffee shop
> >> (unless it's one that you own), since you will eat up all of the
> >> available bandwidth at a business that is trying to serve multiple
> >> people.
> > Sorry folks ;/
> >
> > My questions WAS:
> > "Anyone successfully installed Debian using netinst.iso when
> > *ONLY* available internet connection was via a public Wifi
> > hot spot?"
> >
> > Please don't GUESS at possible problems when I asked if
> > anyone has *EVER* succeeded?
> >
> > BTW
> > 1. Location is a public library
> > 2. I've routinely connected using Debian, Ubuntu and EVEN
> > Windows(tm) - never having been asked to agree to any terms. LOL
> >
> > Being in a distant suburb (~2000 miles SE) , AKA "Show Me
> > State" ;)
> > "And the answer is ??? ??????"
> >
> >
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> I've never succeeded at your specified task, and upon reading it had a
> response like this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0Xl50qKVkqE#t=3961s
>
> but good luck!
>
> - nathan w
>
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