[PLUG] Urgent! Lost network connection after upgrade

John Jason Jordan johnxj at comcast.net
Tue Aug 6 00:06:12 UTC 2013


On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 15:06:38 -0700
Dale Snell <ddsnell at frontier.com> dijo:

>HOWEVER, that said, I know John doesn't want to go through all the
>pain of making all that stuff work again.  So here's my last gasp
>thought on the subject.  Mount the F17 installation DVD -- don't
>try to run it, just mount it.  Navigate to the Packages directory
>and see what's there.  It'll either be all of the packages, or a
>set of directories, one for each letter of the alphabet.
>
>If it's one massive directory full of packages, fine.  Get the
>list of all the F16 packages still installed, strip off the
>version info, and feed it to yum.  You may need a "--local" flag;
>I don't remember when they removed that option.
>
>If it's a set of directories, do the same basic thing, but sort
>the list of packages into alphabetized chunks, and feed them to
>yum one letter at a time.  A small bash script should work just
>fine.

Hmm. The DVD has them sorted into folders  by letter of the alphabet.
There are over 3,000 packages.

Just now I re-ran "rpm -qa |grep fc16" and searched in the 
DVD folders for just the first five that the command produced:

	deluge-web-1.3.5-1fc16.noarch
	perl-Gtk2-Ex-PodViewer-0.18--8.fc16.noarch
	gnome-shell-extension-user-theme-3.2.3-2.fc16.noarch
	scribus-debuginfo.1.4.2-2.fc16.x86_64
	pixman.0.24.4-1.fc16.i686

Only the pixman package was on the DVD, and it was a newer version. But
when I searched on the Scribus package above I noted that the DVD did
not have that package, but it did have scribus-1.4.0-5.fc17.x86_64.rpm,
yet I have 1.4.2 installed already.

>That _should_ get enough of F17 installed that you can do whatever
>else you need to do.  

If recall from things Daniel said, Fedora 17 uses systemd, where
previous versions did not. I wonder how many packages like that would
not be in my list of fc16 packages, thus I would never get them
installed. Also, how many of the packages in the fc16 list are just
leftovers that are not actually used any more but didn't get deleted
for some reason.

Your plan sounds like quite a lot of work with very little likelihood
of success. On the other hand, at this point I have nothing to lose.

I will say it again: If I must do a fresh install, it won't be Fedora.
I want something where I can get the latest versions of *some*
packages, but I also want stability and I hate the forced upgrades. I
understand the philosophy and raison d'être of Fedora, and it's not for
me. 

My computer is also five years old, the SD reader broke a year ago and
the DVD drive has a flaky connection. I've been thinking about a
new computer for some time. Perhaps this event is just fate telling me
it's time to move on. 



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