[PLUG] Ubuntu upgrade

Nat Taylor bioborg at gmail.com
Tue May 16 22:21:54 UTC 2017


Stop mirroring for a sec and upgrade or fresh install on one.  Honestly, if
you don't have a lot of foreign packages and you use the upgrade tool it
should go smooth.
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 12:49 PM Mark Phillips <mark at phillipsmarketing.biz>
wrote:

> Michael,
>
> Happy to hear the problem with the upgrade was just a cable!
>
> I am running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on a System 76 Gazellle (great machine!) and
> have been contemplating upgrading to 16.xx. However, I am concerned that it
> will be a giant headache. I can't take this machine out of service to fix a
> ton of upgrade problems.
>
> Any suggestions on the best way to upgrade? I have two SSDs in the machine
> now, mirror images of each other. I would hate to have to buy two more SSDs
> and suffer through the setup process....
>
> Thanks for any suggestions!
>
> Mark
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Michael Barnes <barnmichael at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Red face. Turns out I had a bad Ethernet cable. It was working fine, but
> > after I moved the computer while installing the new hard drive, it quit
> > working. All fine now. Thanks for everyone's comments.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 12:33 AM, wes <plug at the-wes.com> wrote:
> >
> > > well, I don't have any more ideas for you right now, but if you don't
> get
> > > it figured out by this weekend, the PLUG Clinic is this Sunday, 1-5pm.
> > >
> > > 1731 SE 10th Ave, 97214.
> > >
> > > -wes
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Michael Barnes <
> barnmichael at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > It also looks like it is not using IPV4, only IPV6. Strange.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Michael Barnes <
> > barnmichael at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > More info seems to lead to more questions. Apparently this has
> > > something
> > > > > to do with systemd. I guess this is a new (to me) thing and it
> > changes
> > > > the
> > > > > way stuff is named. So, what used to be eth0 is now enp3s0. But,
> > trying
> > > > the
> > > > > usual network commands with that don't work either.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 10:04 PM, wes <plug at the-wes.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> my first step is usually to find the model number in the lspci
> > output,
> > > > and
> > > > >> the google that number along with ubuntu 16.04 and see if anyone's
> > > > posted
> > > > >> a
> > > > >> guide.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -wes
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Michael Barnes <
> > > barnmichael at gmail.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Installed 16.04 LTS via flash drive to new hard drive. Only
> took a
> > > few
> > > > >> > minutes! Previous DVD installs took much, much longer. Anyhow,
> so
> > > far,
> > > > >> no
> > > > >> > network. Sadly, my Linux memory has become very foggy, so please
> > > > forgive
> > > > >> > the noobie type questions. I don't seem to be finding eth0.
> Using
> > > > >> lspci, I
> > > > >> > find the info for the onboard Broadcom Ethernet adapter, but
> under
> > > > >> > 'Capabilities' it says "<access denied>. Running ifconfig does
> not
> > > > show
> > > > >> > eth0, but it does show enp3s0. If I try "sudo ifup eth0" I get
> > > > "Unknown
> > > > >> > interface eth0."
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I'm kind of surprised at the minimum of questions and the speed
> of
> > > the
> > > > >> > install. I wonder what else will not be working?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Thanks for your comments,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Michael
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Michael Barnes <
> > > > barnmichael at gmail.com>
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > I figured the quickest and easiest was probably to start all
> > over.
> > > > It
> > > > >> > > looks like all my files, pictures, documents, etc. are still
> > > intact.
> > > > >> I'll
> > > > >> > > just stick in a new hard drive, install 16.04 LTS from
> scratch,
> > > then
> > > > >> copy
> > > > >> > > what I need from the old drive to the new one. Thanks for
> > > everyone's
> > > > >> > > comments.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Michael
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:51 AM, Nat Taylor <
> bioborg at gmail.com
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> instead of comparing xorg files, I'd want to get it to try to
> > > > >> > >> automagically
> > > > >> > >> configure stuff fresh, maybe with a *sudo dpkg-reconfigure
> > xorg*
> > > > and
> > > > >> a
> > > > >> > >> *sudo
> > > > >> > >> apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade*
> > > > >> > >> Maybe try dpkg-reconfiguring your window manager (unity?)
> > > > >> > >> -- did it disable the universe or multiverse for the upgrade
> > and
> > > do
> > > > >> you
> > > > >> > >> need to reenable it?
> > > > >> > >> Check your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> Did you do the upgrade to 16.04 by manually editing the
> > sources,
> > > or
> > > > >> did
> > > > >> > >> you
> > > > >> > >> use the tool in the Software Center, or did you
> > > do-release-upgrade
> > > > >> from
> > > > >> > >> the
> > > > >> > >> command line?
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Michael Barnes <
> > > > >> barnmichael at gmail.com>
> > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> > Yeah, I got to thinking after I started I shouldn't have
> done
> > > > that.
> > > > >> > >> > Everything has been packed away for almost a year. It seems
> > > I've
> > > > >> > >> forgotten
> > > > >> > >> > more than I remember. A new hard drive is probably in
> order.
> > > I'll
> > > > >> have
> > > > >> > >> to
> > > > >> > >> > compare Xorg files and look at drivers loaded between the
> two
> > > > >> > versions.
> > > > >> > >> > Just have to remember how to do all that.
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > Michael
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Edward Koenig <
> > > > >> kingbeowulf at gmail.com
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > > Michael
> > > > >> > >> > > If the new version boots and you can ssh to log in, then
> > most
> > > > >> likely
> > > > >> > >> > > either X.org or a GPU driver did not update fully or
> > > correctly.
> > > > >> This
> > > > >> > >> is
> > > > >> > >> > > very typical for proprietary nvidia drivers, or any
> > > proprietary
> > > > >> > >> hardware
> > > > >> > >> > > drivers that install a kernel module. You might try using
> > the
> > > > >> > command
> > > > >> > >> > line
> > > > >> > >> > > tools to reinstall the GPU and X bits.  I'm not sure it
> > > Ubuntu
> > > > >> > >> switched
> > > > >> > >> > to
> > > > >> > >> > > wayland with this release so perhaps check on that.
> > Remember
> > > > to
> > > > >> > read
> > > > >> > >> the
> > > > >> > >> > > release notes etc before clicking "upgrade"
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > Nuking from orbit, as Dick suggests after backup, will
> > > > certainly
> > > > >> > work.
> > > > >> > >> > > Personally run a Linux distribution to avoid such
> > > "windowesque"
> > > > >> > fixes.
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > Ed
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > On May 12, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Dick Steffens <
> > > > >> > dick at dicksteffens.com>
> > > > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > >> On 05/12/2017 11:24 AM, Michael Barnes wrote:
> > > > >> > >> > > >> I rebooted again and at the grub screen chose
> 14.04LTS.
> > > > >> > Everything
> > > > >> > >> > came
> > > > >> > >> > > up
> > > > >> > >> > > >> normally. After login, I get a pop-up window that says
> > > 14.04
> > > > >> is
> > > > >> > out
> > > > >> > >> > > dated
> > > > >> > >> > > >> and no longer supported. Anyhow, display and
> everything
> > > > works,
> > > > >> > so I
> > > > >> > >> > > know at
> > > > >> > >> > > >> least the hardware is okay. Shutdown and restart, let
> > grub
> > > > >> screen
> > > > >> > >> > choose
> > > > >> > >> > > >> default and back to blank screens. I can ssh in and
> > > shutdown
> > > > >> from
> > > > >> > >> > remote
> > > > >> > >> > > >> session. Screens give Ubuntu shutdown splash just
> before
> > > > power
> > > > >> > off.
> > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > Having been on this list a fairly long time, I've
> > followed
> > > > the
> > > > >> > >> advice
> > > > >> > >> > of
> > > > >> > >> > > > others who say one should not use the "upgrade" path to
> > > move
> > > > >> from
> > > > >> > >> one
> > > > >> > >> > > > Ubuntu release to another, but should start with a
> fresh
> > > > >> install.
> > > > >> > I
> > > > >> > >> > have
> > > > >> > >> > > > gone from Ubuntu 10 to 12 to 14, and am slowly moving
> to
> > > 16.
> > > > >> Each
> > > > >> > >> time
> > > > >> > >> > I
> > > > >> > >> > > > had the luxury of being able to at least put in a fresh
> > > hard
> > > > >> drive
> > > > >> > >> for
> > > > >> > >> > > > the new version, and then mount the old hard drive to
> be
> > > able
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> > >> copy
> > > > >> > >> > > > files as needed. I don't think any of the episodes has
> > been
> > > > >> > >> painless,
> > > > >> > >> > > > since it seems there's always something big that
> changes
> > so
> > > > >> that
> > > > >> > it
> > > > >> > >> > > > doesn't work the way it did in the previous version,
> but
> > I
> > > > have
> > > > >> > >> always
> > > > >> > >> > > > been able to get past it, often with the help of folks
> on
> > > > this
> > > > >> > list.
> > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > So, in your case, I'd recommend using Grub to boot to
> > your
> > > > >> > previous
> > > > >> > >> > > > version, find a way to back up all your important
> files,
> > > and
> > > > >> > >> install 16
> > > > >> > >> > > > from scratch. Better would be to have two machines, but
> > not
> > > > >> > everyone
> > > > >> > >> > has
> > > > >> > >> > > > that luxury. I'm happy that I do have that option this
> > > time,
> > > > >> > because
> > > > >> > >> > > > there are a handful of things I have yet to be able to
> > > figure
> > > > >> out
> > > > >> > >> how
> > > > >> > >> > to
> > > > >> > >> > > > do in 16 that I need on at least a weekly basis, if
> not a
> > > > daily
> > > > >> > one.
> > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > --
> > > > >> > >> > > > Regards,
> > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > Dick Steffens
> > > > >> > >> > > >
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