[PLUG] VOIP, NOMOROBO, POTS, FAX

[Larry Brigman]

Just after answering another call like yours, I stumbled upon another site
that doesn't charge.  Jolly Roger telephone company.  They turn the tables
on the callers tying up the most expensive part of the operation, the human.
You can use it with any number/service that supports ringing multiple
numbers at the same time.  Backend database to auto select known
robocaller.
The guy that created it did a Ted talk about it.

On Sep 6, 2017 3:23 PM, "Chuck Hast" <wchast at gmail.com> wrote:

> See below:
>
> On Sep 6, 2017 16:52, "Keith Lofstrom" <keithl at kl-ic.com> wrote:
>
> Today, 10 spam calls since 630 AM, and Frontier says (after
> half an hour on hold) that they can't block fake phone
> numbers or "Out of area".  It's like the submitting a list
> to the police of the 10 name-badge-wearing people you don't
> want to kill you.  Time for a change.
>
>
> I was getting a load of these on my cell, ended up installing an app that
> blocks anything that  does not id. That took care of all but the spoofed
> numbers, most of those are dumb enough to leave a real number for callback
> so I have been able to get rid of more of them. I have not had  a landlines
> on such a long time that I do not know what to tell you beyond the Asterisk
> thing and let it do the filtering. But you said you have had enough pain
> with asterisk.
>
>
> Complications:  We've got a fax, which we use 3-5 times
> per month, for HIPAA-sensitive stuff.  No internet fax
> services are truly HIPAA compliant.
>
>
> I find that so funny since fax has been breakable ever since the druggers
> used to send "orders" over hf using fax machines and very expensive SSB
> radios, some using pilot carrier to lock both ends. HIPAA, banks and
> insurance companies still use fax believing it is not hackable.
>
>
> We've got Frontier FIOS;  QOS goes to hell on "Netflix
> Nights", but there may be a way to fix that, too.
>
> Nomorobo.com (which depends on a VOIP connection) looks
> interesting.  That means a VOIP link to the network.
> Also, they are "free", which means somebody may be
> paying them to listen in.
>
> My vague idea, feedback and consulting help welcome:
>
> 1) We move our 503-xxx-xxxx phone number of 30 years
> to a VOIP service, and connect that to nomorobo.com .
>
> 2) We buy a magic box to connect the existing house phone
> wiring (POTS) and the FAX to the IP network.  Suggestions?
>
>
> I used to use Vonage for that, they provide the loop and ring down for pots
> phones and provide a port for fax machines. Since the encryption HIPAA puts
> so much importance in is from end to end the link being Voip should not
> matter.
>
>
>  2a) We have a dozen wireless phones scattered around the
>  house, and eventually the greenhouse, connected that way.
>
>
> That is the way I had most of my phones that talked to the Vonage device.
>
>
>  2b) We have a Sangoma card than might work in a small
>  format PC with Asterisk, but I would rather have a
>  simple box with outside tech support.  Asterisk;
>  been there, done that, got the scars.  Too much work!
>
>
> There were a lot of solutions based on Asterisk that simplified the whole
> process, where I see the device being useful is in filtering the phone
> spam.
>
>
> 3) PLUG puts together a SIG to think about how to do this.
> Perhaps a few of us put together a businss.
>
>
> 4) We work to change the laws to make the carriers
> responsible for the anonymous/fraudulent crap they insist
> on passing through.  Their computers can (in principle) be
> programmed to stop this crap if the end user requests it;
> they steadfastly refuse.  These are $300/incident torts;
> If every Oregonian gets 2 such calls per week, and 25%
> are angry enough to do something about it, that is
> 100 million torts or $30 billion per year.  Frontier's
> market cap is $1.1 billion, so Oregon owns them in two
> weeks, other carriers with similar policies ditto.  We
> sell the assets to new and responsible owners, and fund
> the schools with the proceeds.
>
>
> Wish in one hand, but creating a box to do a lot of that filtering would be
> a good thing.
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