[PLUG] Virtual Box hard crashes desktop system

Denis Heidtmann denis.heidtmann at gmail.com
Tue Feb 6 02:08:07 UTC 2018


Since my hard crashes are not unique to my system, and others found that
changing to VB 5.2, I completely removed 5.0 and installed 5.2 from
Oracle.  I followed the instructions as best I could understand them--added
a source (https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian) to get it.  It
runs now, but I had to revert to USB 1.0 in my guest settings for lack of
extensions.  I do not know if that restriction will be a limit for me or
not.

My main concern is what happens with upgrades?  I do not  have a clue as to
how this "contributed" source is compatible with the "official" packages
from Ubuntu.

The  other question is why does my laptop continue to run VB 5.0 OK?

-Denis

On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Tomas Kuchta <tomas.kuchta.lists at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Looking at your response Dennis - you might not be using vBox extension in
> your setup. For that you would have to be using vBox installed from
> virtualBox.org.
>
> So, if you do not use additions/extensions, please disregard my extension
> related comments.
>
> If on other hand are using vBox extensions, they must come from the same
> place as your vBox installation. You cannot mix and match Ubuntu
> installation with virtualbox.org additions. That would cause you a lot of
> paint, guaranteed.
>
> Tomas
>
> On Feb 5, 2018 1:17 PM, "Tomas Kuchta" <tomas.kuchta.lists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I would second the extension pack as possible, cause.
> >
> > With virtualBox, the kernel module and host additions need to be upgraded
> > in sync. It is wise to also keep the guest additions in sync, especially
> if
> > you left it drift for a while.
> >
> > I have vBox 5.2.6 working fine on openSuSE.
> >
> > This is maybe unrelated to your current issue. Still, it is something to
> > consider.
> >
> > When switching hosts - they might have different CPUs, with different
> > features exposed to guests. Unless you lock it down to the lowest common
> > denominator in your guest config, you might run into crashes or even have
> > you windows instance disabled.
> >
> > When you use something as old as w2k in virtualBox or KVM or .... It
> would
> > make sense to be cautious while upgrading. The host additions and/or
> guest
> > drivers need to be compatible with your w2k. So it would make sense to
> > check the release notes for the dreaded incompatible message. At some
> point
> > in the future, even inside virtual machines, these old OS's will become
> > dead due to their drivers becoming broken.
> >
> > Hope it helps, Tomas
> >
> >
> > On Feb 5, 2018 8:05 AM, "Ken Stephens" <kennethgstephens at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like you need to install the extension pack for your upgraded VB.
> > https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:51 PM, Tony Schlemmer <aschlemm at comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > My base OS is Win7 and I run a guest operator system of Ubuntu 16.04
> LTS.
> > > My Ubuntu would not boot. Win7 works fine.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > > On Feb 4, 2018, at 18:42, Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtmann at gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am not  sure I interpret you comments correctly, but Win2k is my
> > guest;
> > > > Ubuntu 16.04 is the host.  Ubuntu runs fine.  Are you suggesting
> that I
> > > > would need to install the Host to fix the Guest (or VB, whichever is
> > the
> > > > culprit)?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:58 PM, Tony Schlemmer <
> aschlemm at comcast.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I have window 7 laptop for work and when I tried to upgrade to
> Virtual
> > > Box
> > > >> 5.2.6 with a Ubuntu 16.04 LTS it ran for a day. When left work I
> > > shutdown
> > > >> the VirtualBox. When I tried restarting Ubuntu the next day I got
> > > nothing.
> > > >> The logs were empty. I had no choice but to create another 40GB
> > > partition
> > > >> with Ubuntu and down load every again.
> > > >>
> > > >> Now I have memory card that back everything up on so if it happens
> > > again I
> > > >> at least have my files. VirtualBox worked perfectly for 6 months. We
> > use
> > > >> GIT so I checked in my code changes in daily but I spent about 6
> hours
> > > >> reinstalling everything.
> > > >>
> > > >> Tony
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Feb 4, 2018, at 17:40, Denis Heidtmann <
> denis.heidtmann at gmail.com
> > >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As soon as I click on start, the computer freezes--no mouse, no
> > > keyboard
> > > >>> reaction.  The power button is all I could find to break the ice.
> > > >> Reliably
> > > >>> repeatable.  The VB logs are empty.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> My laptop  has the same OS (Ubuntu 16.04), same VBox, same win2k
> > guest;
> > > >>> works fine.  I have tried to compare the settings between the two
> > > >> systems,
> > > >>> and they are almost alike.  What I see different that seems unusual
> > is
> > > >> that
> > > >>> the desktop system under Storage/IDE controller shows Win2kSP2
> > > Clone.vdi
> > > >>> and Empty for the Secondary Master, whereas the laptop shows
> > > >>> VboxGuestAdditons_5.0.18.iso  I was certain that I installed the
> > guest
> > > >>> additions on the desktop.  VB had run fine up until this latest
> > > >> attempt.  I
> > > >>> will go looking for the guest additions.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I would appreciate ideas on how to investigate this.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -Denis
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