[PLUG] Parts shopping for new desktop

Russell Senior russell at personaltelco.net
Wed Feb 7 07:41:06 UTC 2018


Or mount it on an old record player.  On 33 rpm, you'll get a chance
every couple seconds! ;-)

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 10:53 PM, Tomas Kuchta
<tomas.kuchta.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> I love your suggestion Dennis, priceless!
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> On Feb 6, 2018 9:26 PM, "Denis Heidtmann" <denis.heidtmann at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My previous desktop did not have front USB, so I had a short extension
>> cable bringing USB to the front.  Now that was 2.0, so I do not know if
>> something running at 10Gbps could tolerate such a solution, but I bet not.
>> I believe the reason for SATA Express is that it can accommodate higher
>> bandwidth.  And that bandwidth may be the reason Gen 2 it is relegated to
>> the back.
>>
>> Just turn your machine around.  No need for those lights and buttons and
>> drives.
>>
>> -Denis
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 9:17 PM, John Jason Jordan <johnxj at gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 20:40:15 -0800
>> > Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtmann at gmail.com> dijo:
>> >
>> > >I did a brief search and found a prediction that the SATA Express "may
>> > >never catch on."
>> >
>> > That may be a true prediction, but at the moment a SATA Express port
>> > plus the device to mount in the front panel is the only way I can find
>> > to get USB 3.1 Gen. 2 in the front of a desktop computer. I can find
>> > plenty of motherboards that offer ports accessible in the back of the
>> > computer, but I don't want to have to crawl around on the floor behind
>> > the computer to plug in a portable drive.
>> >
>> > For the benefit of those who may be wondering what I'm yammering about,
>> > let me clarify the current situation re USB. USB 1.1 is now so old that
>> > it is safely forgotten, having been replaced by USB 2.0 (480Mbps). USB
>> > 2.0 was then replaced by USB 3.0 (5Gbps). USB 3.0 was recently
>> > superseded by USB 3.1 (10Gbps). However, for reasons I cannot grasp, it
>> > has been decided to rename USB 3.0 as 'USB 3.1 Generation 1' and the
>> > new 10Gbps version as USB 3.1 Generation 2.' The result is a mass of
>> > confusion on vendors' web sites as most older copy has not been
>> > updated.
>> >
>> > My computing makes moderately heavy use of disc I/O. At this time I
>> > have no portable devices with USB 3.1 Gen 2, but the computer I'm
>> > replacing is 7-8 years old, so I am building a new one that I hope will
>> > serve my needs for just as long. It won't be very long before Gen 2
>> > becomes the norm, so it makes sense to be ready for it.
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