[PLUG] VLC 3.0

[Tom]

You just hit the spot at the right pre-school level Ben,

This I understand perfectly - it is a yoke intended to make everything
looking cool - an it is firmly stuck between the desktop environment
and the screen.

Thanks, I get it now, it should not add to my Linux experience in any
positive/negative ways.

Tomas

On Wed, 2018-05-09 at 10:03 -0700, Ben Koenig wrote:
> Compiz makes your desktop look cool.
> 
> Compiz can break certain applications.
> 
> As an analogy, if we compare VLC to a website... then Compiz is a
> module 
> you enable in the web server to add graphical effects to VLC.
> 
> Now imagine if this web server module that you enable in http.conf
> was 
> integrated into the webserver, and impossible to disable.
> That is what ubuntu did with compiz. They included the graphical
> effects 
> system at a level that can't be turned off. This results in
> applications 
> such as VLC encountering problems that go back 10 years, because
> control 
> over how the video is rendered to the screen has been taken away
> from 
> the video player.
> 
> I hope that clarifies it. This is a topic worth keeping tabs on
> because 
> it directly affects how server-side data is presented to the user on
> the 
> client side.
> 
> 
> On 05/09/2018 02:18 AM, Tomas K wrote:
> > Thanks all for trying, I really appreciate it.
> > 
> > I am now confused, on the top of just not knowing.
> > I guess, I was naive to seek simple functional description after
> > seeing
> > all those mountains of buzzwords on compiz.org.
> > 
> > It gets even worse with more unknown stuff such as Aero and Mac OS
> > -
> > GPU and openGL. Those are not good reference points to me. I guess,
> > it
> > has something to do with 3D, triangles, polygons, vertexes, fills,
> > etc.
> > as in when you want to fill a window frame in games before it gets
> > passed to compositor for screen frame assembly? Or am I completely
> > off
> > track? I thought X does that window decorations and screen frame
> > assembly work.
> > 
> > Anyway, thanks again for trying - I thought that it would be easy
> > to
> > just ask. It always is. :-)
> > 
> > It seems that I would have to spent some non trivial time learning
> > about stuff I am not currently that much interested in. I am
> > server,
> > web service, engineering and data junkie kind of a guy - html5,
> > svg,
> > gnuplot, R, Qt, .... can display any data I can think of at the
> > moment.
> > 
> > This is completely unfamiliar area to me.
> > 
> > Cheers, Tomas
> > 
> > On Tue, 2018-05-08 at 21:19 -0700, Ben Koenig wrote:
> > > Not exactly
> > > 
> > > Compiz is a window manager that enables desktop effects similar
> > > to
> > > those
> > > found in Mac OS X and Windows Aero. It accomplishes this by
> > > drawing
> > > application windows to the screen using OpenGL and you graphics
> > > card.
> > > It
> > > is a component of your Desktop Environment.
> > > 
> > > Maximize, minimize, and window manipulation that we expect on a
> > > desktop
> > > computer is handed by a "Window Manager". Compiz provides these
> > > features
> > > using opengl on your GPU, so it can go nuts and arrange your
> > > desktop
> > > in
> > > 3 dimensions. Windows Aero.... MacOS Expo/Mission Control...  or
> > > in
> > > our
> > > case the Compiz Desktop Cube.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Most DE's such as KDE and whatnot have the ability to run a
> > > different
> > > WM, therefore drastically changing the way windows are managed.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 05/08/2018 09:00 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote:
> > > > Thanks.
> > > > So is it a desktop environment like Gnome/kde/lxde/... ?
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, May 8, 2018, 8:23 PM John Jason Jordan <johnxj at gmx.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, 09 May 2018 02:55:17 +0000
> > > > > Tomas Kuchta <tomas.kuchta.lists at gmail.com> dijo:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > What is Compiz?
> > > > > > What is it good for?
> > > > > > Can some explain it in a single digestible sentence?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Compiz allows the user to add a bit of art to their desktop
> > > > > by
> > > > > altering
> > > > > the appearance of windows and objects. As a common example
> > > > > that I
> > > > > use
> > > > > myself, you can add a shadow around windows. I keep my shadow
> > > > > thin and
> > > > > not very dark so it is just a hint. If you're not
> > > > > artistically
> > > > > inclined, then compiz is not for you.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sorry, that was more than one sentence. Hopefully they were
> > > > > digestible.
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