[PLUG] Experiences with USB "null modem" cables.

Johnathan Mantey manteyjg at gmail.com
Thu May 31 14:12:07 UTC 2018


Richard,
Is there a reason you don't use point to point RJ45 ethernet?  If a PC has
USB it almost always has RJ45 ethernet.  If neither side has MDIX then RJ45
crossover cables are available to complete the connection.  Why do you have
an affinity for USB cable solutions?

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:39 AM, Russell Senior <russell at personaltelco.net>
wrote:

> Good luck!
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:17 AM, Richard Owlett <rowlett at cloud85.net>
> wrote:
>
> > On 05/30/2018 03:43 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
> >
> >> The one I have implements a USB-net interface,
> >>
> >
> > I did a DuckDuckGo search for "USB-net interface" {with/without quotes}.
> > Found several interesting links, but not sure if any are what you are
> > speaking of. A link to specific device(s) you refer to?
> >
> > so it's effectively an ethernet cable.
> >>
> >
> > I purposely used the term "null modem". I date from an  era/industry
> where
> > where 20 mA current loop was preferred over RS-232C for its noise
> immunity.
> > Since USB 1.0 I've considered "universal" of USB an unfortunate choice of
> > adjectives. The intrinsic implementation of hardware to forever be
> either a
> > *MASTER* or slave is annoying.
> >
> >  Most modern distributions just work.  The one you link is
> >> a USB-to-serial-to USB.  That is not ideal for transferring files.
> >>
> >
> > Depends on your metric.
> >
> > If you
> >> are unclear on what the "link" cable supports, you can always just buy
> two
> >> usb-ethernet adapters and an ethernet cable to go in the middle.
> >>
> > That explicitly is to be avoided as an unnecessary complication.
> >
> > Maybe more adpatable than a "link cable".
> >>
> >
> > I want a USB cable that is as functional (my metric) as a RS-232 cable of
> > decades past. The only observable difference would be max available
> speed.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Richard Owlett <rowlett at cloud85.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> ARGHHH. New it was going to be that kind of day ;/
> >>> Any problems &/or comments?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 05/30/2018 01:53 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yes
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, May 30, 2018, 10:54 Richard Owlett <rowlett at cloud85.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I've come across a "USB Null Modem Cable" by Future Technology Devices
> >>>>
> >>>>> International [http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBtoUSB.htm
> ].
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It would seem an appropriate solution for some file sharing between
> two
> >>>>> Linux machines which have only USB 2.0 in common.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Has anyone used this or a similar product.
> >>>>> TIA
> >>>>>
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