[PLUG] An apology needed? - was [Re: Wanted: handheld data collection device with Linux OS]

Richard Owlett rowlett at cloud85.net
Thu Nov 15 16:33:46 UTC 2018


On 11/15/2018 09:29 AM, Nat Taylor wrote:
> The Dual Boot Gemini is in production, and is available in wifi-only.
> You can buy it here:
> https://store.planetcom.co.uk/collections/gemini-pda/products/gemini-pda-wifi-only?variant=6314880499739

Was referring to it when I said "I'm tracking it." I received a response 
from them on one point of concern. It may have Noodle Pi as competitor.

> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 7:12 AM Johnathan Mantey <manteyjg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Richard,
>>
>> I viewed one of the links I provided in the "old devices" thread, related
>> to this one.  It seems based on what I just read that the *Noodle Pi* may
>> be very close to your list of requirements.
>> I also sent another link, which I have not viewed, comparing 5 different
>> handheld devices (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXNllO79_68)
>>
>> You hadn't commented on the info provided, so I wanted to add it to this
>> thread.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 6:32 AM Richard Owlett <rowlett at cloud85.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/13/2018 07:46 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 1:26 PM Richard Owlett <rowlett at cloud85.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I know I have *WEIRD* preferences.
>>>>>
>>>>> How should I pose questions in a manner that they would be taken
>>>>>     _ *EXTREMELY LITERALLY* _?
>>>>
>>>> You should pose it knowing that you may get answers that don't fit
>>>> perfectly. You are responsible for wading through the responses and
>>>> extracting the value you can. They may be the best answers available
>>>> from the people you are asking. Learn to live with that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ROFL? Don't know if I should laugh, cry, groan, or inspire a SNL skit ;}
>>> Been "living with 'it' " for ~half a century :}
>>> Who? Me? Strange world view? <snicker>
>>>
>>> More seriously, compared to other fora this one has a better track
>>> record of answering the questions actually asked rather than the
>>> question that some wished I had asked.
>>>
>>> You have to see the humor of this thread.
>>>
>>> 1. I state I'm interested in current production.
>>>      It is suggested I buy decade old units on ebay.
>>>      Some came closer by mentioning things that barely made it out of
>>>      a crowd funding phase before ceasing production.
>>>
>>> 2. I specify *"physical form factor similar to a Palm Pilot"* and
>>>      having USB connectivity.
>>>      I can't have that as USB did not exist in Palm Pilot era.
>>>
>>> 3. I specify a "Linux device" and " *NOT* be shipped with Android OS".
>>>      I'm told that is unreasonable as ~"everybody uses Android".
>>>      [One person did point to a device shipped with Linux dual booted. It
>>>       meets my underlying requirement on not having to deal with Android.
>>>       It is unclear if it has yet entered production &/or ships with my
>>>       preferred mix of options. I'm tracking it.]
>>>
>>> I've had requests for justification of some of my specifications.
>>>
>>> My physical environment strongly influences my choices:
>>>     1. due to >70 years of wear-n-tear my doctor would like data.
>>>     2. pen and paper is non-viable.
>>>     3. I'm on an exercise program which would benefit from records.
>>>     4. walking with a pair of forearm crutches which introduces
>>>        portability issues.
>>>
>>> I specify Linux for choice of installing only relevant software
>>> and is easily customized - in my case by Tcl/Tk scripts.
>>>
>>> Android is not acceptable due to personal experience. A few years ago
>>> Lenovo had a cell phone available in three configurations:
>>>     1. with sim card and a cell phone carrier.
>>>     2. with no sim card installed making cell connectivity optional.
>>>     3. *without* possibility of installing a sim card.
>>> I bought one of the later discovering:
>>>     1. primary source of _free software_ was Google who required an
>>>        unacceptable amount of personal info for "free" software.
>>>     2. it placed unreasonable barriers to installing a preferred OS.
>>>
>>> I referenced Palm Pilot due to it's form factor and capabilities:
>>>     1. nominal size 6" x 4" x 1" would be good - thinner better.
>>>     2. as an example of minimal capabilities.
>>>
>>> Cell connectivity serves no useful purpose and gives manufacturers
>>> unreasonable justifications for restrictions on user modifications
>>> to their personal property. Current discussion of E911 connectivity
>>> requirements without a sim card points out possible undesirable
>>> unintended side effects of unintentional 911 calls.
>>> unreasonable range.
>>>
>>> Specifying availability from U.S. retail vendor handles some personal
>>> preferences.
>>>
>>> A long winded post. But ... ;/
>>>
>>> Owl ducks fer cover.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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