[PLUG] An apology needed? - was [Re: Wanted: handheld data collection device with Linux OS]

Thu Nov 15 18:56:40 UTC 2018

I may have to check out the Noodle pi too!

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:35 AM Richard Owlett <rowlett at cloud85.net> wrote:

> On 11/15/2018 09:29 AM, Nat Taylor wrote:
> > The Dual Boot Gemini is in production, and is available in wifi-only.
> > You can buy it here:
> >
> https://store.planetcom.co.uk/collections/gemini-pda/products/gemini-pda-wifi-only?variant=6314880499739
>
> Was referring to it when I said "I'm tracking it." I received a response
> from them on one point of concern. It may have Noodle Pi as competitor.
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 7:12 AM Johnathan Mantey <manteyjg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Richard,
> >>
> >> I viewed one of the links I provided in the "old devices" thread,
> related
> >> to this one.  It seems based on what I just read that the *Noodle Pi*
> may
> >> be very close to your list of requirements.
> >> I also sent another link, which I have not viewed, comparing 5 different
> >> handheld devices (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXNllO79_68)
> >>
> >> You hadn't commented on the info provided, so I wanted to add it to this
> >> thread.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 6:32 AM Richard Owlett <rowlett at cloud85.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 11/13/2018 07:46 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 1:26 PM Richard Owlett <rowlett at cloud85.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I know I have *WEIRD* preferences.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How should I pose questions in a manner that they would be taken
> >>>>>     _ *EXTREMELY LITERALLY* _?
> >>>>
> >>>> You should pose it knowing that you may get answers that don't fit
> >>>> perfectly. You are responsible for wading through the responses and
> >>>> extracting the value you can. They may be the best answers available
> >>>> from the people you are asking. Learn to live with that.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> ROFL? Don't know if I should laugh, cry, groan, or inspire a SNL skit
> ;}
> >>> Been "living with 'it' " for ~half a century :}
> >>> Who? Me? Strange world view? <snicker>
> >>>
> >>> More seriously, compared to other fora this one has a better track
> >>> record of answering the questions actually asked rather than the
> >>> question that some wished I had asked.
> >>>
> >>> You have to see the humor of this thread.
> >>>
> >>> 1. I state I'm interested in current production.
> >>>      It is suggested I buy decade old units on ebay.
> >>>      Some came closer by mentioning things that barely made it out of
> >>>      a crowd funding phase before ceasing production.
> >>>
> >>> 2. I specify *"physical form factor similar to a Palm Pilot"* and
> >>>      having USB connectivity.
> >>>      I can't have that as USB did not exist in Palm Pilot era.
> >>>
> >>> 3. I specify a "Linux device" and " *NOT* be shipped with Android OS".
> >>>      I'm told that is unreasonable as ~"everybody uses Android".
> >>>      [One person did point to a device shipped with Linux dual booted.
> It
> >>>       meets my underlying requirement on not having to deal with
> Android.
> >>>       It is unclear if it has yet entered production &/or ships with my
> >>>       preferred mix of options. I'm tracking it.]
> >>>
> >>> I've had requests for justification of some of my specifications.
> >>>
> >>> My physical environment strongly influences my choices:
> >>>     1. due to >70 years of wear-n-tear my doctor would like data.
> >>>     2. pen and paper is non-viable.
> >>>     3. I'm on an exercise program which would benefit from records.
> >>>     4. walking with a pair of forearm crutches which introduces
> >>>        portability issues.
> >>>
> >>> I specify Linux for choice of installing only relevant software
> >>> and is easily customized - in my case by Tcl/Tk scripts.
> >>>
> >>> Android is not acceptable due to personal experience. A few years ago
> >>> Lenovo had a cell phone available in three configurations:
> >>>     1. with sim card and a cell phone carrier.
> >>>     2. with no sim card installed making cell connectivity optional.
> >>>     3. *without* possibility of installing a sim card.
> >>> I bought one of the later discovering:
> >>>     1. primary source of _free software_ was Google who required an
> >>>        unacceptable amount of personal info for "free" software.
> >>>     2. it placed unreasonable barriers to installing a preferred OS.
> >>>
> >>> I referenced Palm Pilot due to it's form factor and capabilities:
> >>>     1. nominal size 6" x 4" x 1" would be good - thinner better.
> >>>     2. as an example of minimal capabilities.
> >>>
> >>> Cell connectivity serves no useful purpose and gives manufacturers
> >>> unreasonable justifications for restrictions on user modifications
> >>> to their personal property. Current discussion of E911 connectivity
> >>> requirements without a sim card points out possible undesirable
> >>> unintended side effects of unintentional 911 calls.
> >>> unreasonable range.
> >>>
> >>> Specifying availability from U.S. retail vendor handles some personal
> >>> preferences.
> >>>
> >>> A long winded post. But ... ;/
> >>>
> >>> Owl ducks fer cover.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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