[PLUG] Thinkpads and screensavers

[Tomas Kuchta]

While not explicitly mentioned, my response was related to screen sleep
behavior, not suspend or laptop/cpu sleep.

Suspend behavior  may be dependent on S* state bios/uefi configuration -
typically it does not wake up by keyboard/mouse/touchpad.

So, Dennis' comment might hold the key to John's experience - if his laptop
suspends instead of just turns off the screen - mouse or trackpad action
might just do nothing.

-T



On Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 11:15 Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtmann at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On my X240 thinkpad running Ubuntu 18.04 when I suspend it will not come
> out until I touch a key.  The mouse will not do it.  My touchpad is
> disabled, but not the touchpoint.
>
> Because of your question I just tried coming out of suspend using the
> touchpoint.  Yikes! It restores the mouse but not the screen!  Nor does
> typing.  I had to shut the laptop then reopen to get back to normal.  A
> similar strange behavior occurs with trying to restore using the mouse.
> The reason this behavior is new to me is that I normally would suspend then
> close the laptop.  Suspending then restoring without closing is new.  If I
> leave the laptop open without suspending after some time it will suspend on
> its own.  Then to restore I press the power button, which is slowly
> flashing.
>
> On our desktop keypress seems to be required to come out of suspend.  The
> mouse does not do it.
>
> How much of this relates to your situation I am unsure. Tomas implied that
> mouse activity did not keep the machine from entering suspend.  I did not
> get that impression from your question, and my machines do not have that
> problem.  If that is what happens with your machine then that is truly
> different.
>
> -Denis
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:23 AM Tomas Kuchta <
> tomas.kuchta.lists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Just for the reference - On my Ubuntu 18.04 as well as openSuse the
> > trackpad is disabled when I type. AFAIK, it has always been like that and
> > the external mouse keeps DE awake.
> >
> > Perhaps you needed to generate new DE setup files since you did not
> install
> > from scratch for a while.
> >
> > I had to reset users DE in their home dirs when running IT after almost
> > every upgrade/rebuild. Not doing it, led to too many quirks and
> complains.
> >
> > The easiest way to do that is to logout from DE, move all .files and
> .dirs
> > as well as /tmp .files and .first to a backup using remote login. Then
> > restart your DE. That recreates clean config files. Merge your olds stuff
> > back to your home, keeping the new files intact if you need to.
> >
> > Hope it helps,
> > T
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 02:18 John Jason Jordan <johnxj at gmx.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On my new Thinkpad I had to disable the Touchpad and the Trackpoint
> > > because they make it impossible to type. I use an external wireless
> > > mouse and that is all I need.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, I just discovered that moving the mouse does not disable
> > > the screensaver. Moving the mouse did disable the screensaver on my
> > > old computer, but it did not have a Trackpoint or a Touchpad.
> > >
> > > The Trackpoint and Touchpad are disabled in the Xfce settings GUI,
> > > leaving the wireless mouse enabled. I could disable them in the BIOS
> > > instead, but that option disables the wireless mouse as well.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
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