[PLUG] asking advice on secure texting application

Russell Senior russell at personaltelco.net
Fri Dec 27 23:47:13 UTC 2019


That was quick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYTznwBv4dg

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 3:43 PM Russell Senior <russell at personaltelco.net>
wrote:

> The general idea was that there are usability and feature tradeoffs, and
> different tools try different choices, and it isn't clear what the right
> fit is, and by trying a bunch you help figure it out. If I see the video
> link, I'll forward it, unless someone beats me to it.
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 3:22 PM Ben Koenig <techkoenig at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 12:33 PM Mike C. <mconnors1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > 1. Lack of true interoperability and vender / platform lock-in.  It
>> used to
>> > be that I could login to Chrome at the library and use Cryptocat and
>> then
>> > Signal.
>> >
>> >
>> The millenial generation is currently engaged in an internal battle for
>> protocol dominance. Once the bubble bursts and we have our second dot com
>> crash, we will achieve a brief era of interoperability before the next
>> innovation tears it all apart. Few people my age learned from history, and
>> will therefore repeat it.
>>
>>
>>
>> > 2. Feature bloat. A lightweight secure text app  with out any voice,
>> video,
>> > emoji garbage.
>> >
>> >
>> Remember the sole purpose of technology is to solve a given problem. A lot
>> of people ask questions like "Which app should I use?" or "Does anything
>> have any recommendations?" but in order to answer your question, we need
>> to
>> know what you intend to use said app for.
>> Can you elaborate on your intended use case? The software is FOSS, so it's
>> hard to pinpoint a feature when everyone offers the same set of features.
>> To be perfectly honest with you, the majority of these apps are just
>> chrome
>> extensions. It often takes more effort to remove features than it does to
>> add them so you are unlikely to find a "popular" app that doesn't do
>> unicode and VOIP.
>>
>> As for the Secure part of your question, that's an easy one: Don't trust
>> anything based on Electron or Node.js. The concerns you mention about
>> feature bloat and security are largely due to convergent .JS platforms, so
>> if you ignore anything based on those platforms, you are much more likely
>> to find what you are looking for, with better confidence in your
>> end-to-end
>> encryption.
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