[PLUG] Artix - Fork of Arch Linux

[Denis Heidtmann]

I wonder if your angry response was intended to accomplish something: get a
change in behavior or an improvement in the usefulness of this mail list?
If so, do you think you were successful?  If that was not your intention,
what was the purpose?

-Denis

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 5:50 PM Ben Koenig <techkoenig at gmail.com> wrote:

> Which is why I asked where to direct concerns. Public complaints always get
> clipped to a sound-bite. Next thing you know there's a wall of text flying
> right past the intended point.
>
> I work in tech support. I don't succeed there because I disregard the
> concerns of end users. I take the time to read and understand what is being
> asked and give pointed suggestions to solve problems. This is why it sucks
> so much when someone walks all over my response, leads by admitting they
> have no idea what they are talking about, and then proceeds to wash out any
> sense of reality.
>
> Is he doing it intentionally? No probably not. But any attempt to set out
> what is or isn't real is met with the same assumption that his age makes
> him right. IMNSHO that is not a polite way to engage in conversation in any
> group. I do consider it abusive, and there are multiple people here who do
> that consistently. I'll raise the issue privately. If the powers that be
> decide that PLUG is a group of old white men bragging about the decades of
> experience they have in fortran, then maybe I should move on. My protonmail
> account is far more peaceful than gmail anyway, I'll just move important
> contacts over there and continue with my remaining 70 years.
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 3:49 PM Mike C. <mconnors1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Truth is, I don't care if other PLUG members think I'm out of line.
> > >
> >
> > You seem like a fairly reasonable person and you were personally helpful
> to
> > me a few years ago when I was embarking on a Linux DevOps internship.
> >
> > This is a Linux USER community.
> >
> > It includes people who work or have worked in IT with a wide array of
> > knowledge and experience. It also includes hobbyists, home users and
> > sole-proprietors who use Linux for work.
> >
> > One of these users and sole proprietors has worked as an environmental
> > consultant since 1993 and not "building a floating island of garbage in
> the
> > pacific ocean."
> >
> > I consider Rich a friend through side conversations we've had over the
> past
> > 10 years I've been on the PLUG list.
> >
> > There are quite a few good people in the PLUG community who freely give
> of
> > their time, experience and knowledge be it at the Clinic, the talks and
> in
> > the community such as Personal Telco and working for municipal broadband.
> >
> > - Mike
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